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The Built Environment Marketing Show: marketing strategies and tactics for architects and engineers

The Built Environment Marketing Show: marketing strategies and tactics for architects and engineers
Author: Ayo Abbas, Marketing Consultant
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The Built Environment Marketing Show is an independent podcast hosted by marketing consultant and content creator Ayo Abbas.
It is unashamedly about marketing for architects and engineers, as well as bringing forward voices that we don't ordinarily get to hear.
Each episode shares useful hints and tips from a built environment marketing context, and the experts on the show know not just marketing but marketing that works for architects and engineers. To me that's the most important part, the context and the relevance.
The show is a mix of interviews and solo thoughts on different approaches that could be applied to engineering marketing or architecture marketing for your business, now.
Key themes covered:
- Digital marketing for engineers and architects
- Social media for engineers and architects
- Instagram marketing for engineers and architects
- Websites and online marketing
- Marketing strategy for engineers and architects
Hosted by award-winning marketing consultant Ayo Abbas from Abbas Marketing.
It is unashamedly about marketing for architects and engineers, as well as bringing forward voices that we don't ordinarily get to hear.
Each episode shares useful hints and tips from a built environment marketing context, and the experts on the show know not just marketing but marketing that works for architects and engineers. To me that's the most important part, the context and the relevance.
The show is a mix of interviews and solo thoughts on different approaches that could be applied to engineering marketing or architecture marketing for your business, now.
Key themes covered:
- Digital marketing for engineers and architects
- Social media for engineers and architects
- Instagram marketing for engineers and architects
- Websites and online marketing
- Marketing strategy for engineers and architects
Hosted by award-winning marketing consultant Ayo Abbas from Abbas Marketing.
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In this episode, Ayo Abbas kicks off a mini-series exploring how marketers are using AI across industries. She interviews Stuart Wilks and Kristian Downer about the practical realities of AI adoption, sharing real-world examples, concerns, and the future of marketing with artificial intelligence.Key takeawaysStuart and Kristian shared:How to unlock AI's creative potential while preserving brand authenticityWays to build robust AI governance that enables innovation What effective AI leadership looks like in progressive marketing teamsThe opportunity to create sustainable competitive advantages in an AI-driven market How to strategically position your team for the AI-enhanced future Resources and linksAbbas MarketingLimesladeDowsocial MarketingFyxer.ai - Meeting management and transcription toolNotebookLM - Document summarisation and podcast creationCrystal Knows - LinkedIn profile analysis toolSocial Media Marketing podcast - AI marketing resources and toolsMIT study on AI making people lazy About the showThe Built Environment Marketing Show is hosted by marketing consultant and content creator Ayo Abbas from Abbas Marketing. It is a show that is unashamedly about marketing for architects and engineers, as well as bringing forward voices that we don't always get to hear. Ways you can support this show 📲 Share about the show on socials🔗 Follow us on Apple or Spotify📝 Leave us a review on Apple or Spotify💬 Tell a friend about the show who you think will benefit.
Marketing consultant Anna O'Riordan joins me, Ayo Abbas to challenge the B2B marketing funnel. Often heralded as the gospel of all types of marketing, we explore why traditional funnel thinking fails in B2B environments and share practical alternatives that actually work for complex buying journeys.oh and here are the two LinkedIn posts that sparked this conversation:Ayo's post https://www.linkedin.com/posts/ayoabbas_marketing-b2b-builtenvironment-activity-7342807335859331074-yGd4?utm_source=share&utm_medium=member_desktop&rcm=ACoAAAFPDJgBooVBV0bdyqCqr6gjVCXIR2mUhDAAnna's post https://www.linkedin.com/posts/annaoriordan_life-doesnt-fit-in-a-funnel-and-neither-activity-7341396652613607425-28Dd?utm_source=share&utm_medium=member_desktop&rcm=ACoAAAFPDJgBooVBV0bdyqCqr6gjVCXIR2mUhDAResources and linksAbbas MarketingAfand.coEsTeam.ProApril DunfordAlice Widger - Milk It DigitalKatelyn BourgoinChris WalkerAntonia Wade - Transforming the B2B Buyer Journey About the showThe Built Environment Marketing Show is hosted by marketing consultant and content creator Ayo Abbas from Abbas Marketing. It is a show that is unashamedly about marketing for architects and engineers, as well as bringing forward voices that we don't always get to hear. Ways you can support this show 📲 Share about the show on socials🔗 Follow us on Apple or Spotify📝 Leave us a review on Apple or Spotify💬 Tell a friend about the show who you think will benefit.
In this episode, I Ayo Abbas, founder of Abbas Marketing and host of this podcast share some of my thoughts on this very podcast turning 5 on July 3rd. Resources and linksAbbas MarketingAbout the showThe Built Environment Marketing Show is hosted by marketing consultant and content creator Ayo Abbas from Abbas Marketing. It is a show that is unashamedly about marketing for architects and engineers, as well as bringing forward voices that we don't always get to hear. Ways you can support this show 📲 Share about the show on socials🔗 Follow us on Apple or Spotify📝 Leave us a review on Apple or Spotify💬 Tell a friend about the show who you think will benefit.
In this episode, Ayo Abbas interviews Tom Coupe, founder of Design Communication Training and former communications leader at David Chipperfield Architects, Heatherwick Studio, and Squint Opera. Tom discusses how architects can master spoken communications to build stronger client relationships, win more work, and scale their practices effectively.He shares: How to adapt your design language beyond technical jargon to communicate design concepts clearly to non-architectsWays to build client trust through storytelling What makes great architectural communicators stand out - It's not just brilliant design but being adaptableThe need for structured preparation frameworksHow to handle unknown questions confidently Ways to scale relationship management across a firmAnd much more. Resources and linksAbbas MarketingDesign Communication TrainingAbout the showThe Built Environment Marketing Show is hosted by marketing consultant and content creator Ayo Abbas from Abbas Marketing. It is a show that is unashamedly about marketing for architects and engineers, as well as bringing forward voices that we don't always get to hear. Ways you can support this show 📲 Share about the show on socials🔗 Follow us on Apple or Spotify📝 Leave us a review on Apple or Spotify💬 Tell a friend about the show who you think will benefit.
Welcome to the Built Environment Marketing Show hosted by me, marketer Ayo Abbas from Abbas Marketing. In this episode, I share some of my experiences of being involved in industry awards from three perspectives, as a judge, as an organiser and as an entrant. This year alone, I've judged three major awards programmes The RIBA Awards West London region, The Brunel University Entrepreneurship Awards, and the global Architizer A+ Awards. On top of this last year I assessed over 100 award entries, so I feel I've got lots to say on this and how to create submissions that make shortlists and even go onto win. I share:How to approach awards strategically Ways to research and select the right awardsTips on what makes award entries compelling The importance of using accessible language How to structure winning narratives and tell compelling stories Ways to prepare for judging visits What judges actually look forResources and linksAbbas MarketingRIBA Awards Judging ApplicationsArchitizer A+ AwardsAbout the showThe Built Environment Marketing Show is hosted by marketing consultant and content creator Ayo Abbas from Abbas Marketing. It is a show that is unashamedly about marketing for architects and engineers, as well as bringing forward voices that we don't always get to hear. Ways you can support this show 📲 Share about the show on socials🔗 Follow us on Apple or Spotify📝 Leave us a review on Apple or Spotify💬 Tell a friend about the show who you think will benefit.
This episode is repurposed from my guest appearance on Michelle Garrett's PR Explored show live on LinkedIn. The lively discussion talks about marketing and PR strategies for so-called "boring" industries. We talk about how to find compelling stories in B2B sectors like construction, engineering, and manufacturing, and why these industries offer a sea of potential riches for marketers willing to dig that bit deeper.We share:How to identify stories in technical industries by looking beyond features to find the human impact, problem-solving angles, and business outcomes.Ways to extract compelling narratives from engineers using the "so what?" questioning method to uncover the real benefits and outcomes.Why we feel B2B marketing is way more rewarding than B2CHow to manage client expectations in technical PRWhat effective content repurposing looks like in practiceResources and linksAbbas MarketingGarrett Public RelationsminimassAbout the showThe Built Environment Marketing Show is hosted by marketing consultant and content creator Ayo Abbas from Abbas Marketing. It is a show that is unashamedly about marketing for architects and engineers, as well as bringing forward voices that we don't always get to hear. Ways you can support this show 📲 Share about the show on socials🔗 Follow us on Apple or Spotify📝 Leave us a review on Apple or Spotify💬 Tell a friend about the show who you think will benefit.
In this second part of our special two-part episode of the Built Environment Marketing Show, we continue exploring UKREliF (UK Real Estate Investment Forum), the property and real estate show taking place in Leeds from May 20-22, 2025. I'm Ayo Abbas and am joined by Jeremy Brim from Growth Ignition and special guest Nathan Spencer, Managing Director of UKREiiF, to talk about how you can make the most of their time at the event.In this episode, we go deep into how to prep before, during and after the event with a host of tips on how you can get the maximum bang from your attendee buck. DOWNLOAD MY UKREiiF PREP CHECKLISTResources and linksAbbas MarketingUKREiiFGrowth IgnitionAbout the showThe Built Environment Marketing Show is hosted by marketing consultant and content creator Ayo Abbas from Abbas Marketing. It is a show that is unashamedly about marketing for architects and engineers, as well as bringing forward voices that we don't always get to hear. Ways you can support this show 📲 Share about the show on socials🔗 Follow us on Apple or Spotify📝 Leave us a review on Apple or Spotify💬 Tell a friend about the show who you think will benefit.
This special two-part episode of the Built Environment Marketing Show focuses on UKREiiF (UK Real Estate Investment Forum), the property and real estate show taking place in Leeds from May 20-22, 2025. I'm Ayo Abbas and am joined by Jeremy Brim from Growth Ignition and special guest Nathan Spencer, Managing Director of UKREiiF, to talk about how you can make the most of their time at the event.In this episode, we have a look at: Strategic planning tips to navigate an event with 13,000+ delegatesTips on networking and how to build fruitful business relationshipsNew features and formats for 2025 at the show Some of the must-see sessionsDOWNLOAD MY UKREiiF PREP CHECKLISTResources and linksAbbas MarketingUKREiiFGrowth IgnitionAbout the showThe Built Environment Marketing Show is hosted by marketing consultant and content creator Ayo Abbas from Abbas Marketing. It is a show that is unashamedly about marketing for architects and engineers, as well as bringing forward voices that we don't always get to hear. Ways you can support this show 📲 Share about the show on socials🔗 Follow us on Apple or Spotify📝 Leave us a review on Apple or Spotify💬 Tell a friend about the show who you think will benefit.
Today's episode is part II of a two parter. Make sure you check out part 1 if you haven't had a chance to do so yet. My two amazing guests, Brigitte Clements and Rosie Cade talk about the really important topic of sustainability and climate change which seems to be dropping down in priority of our industry agenda.We covered a lot of ground across the two episodes including: The role of marketing in sustainabilityTips for effective sustainability communicationThe importance of networking, learning and communityThe role of policy and governmentHow you can upskill and be more informed as a marketerResources and linksAbbas MarketingRising TideLoki Architecture and DevelopmentArchitects Climate Action Network (ACAN)Don't Waste Buildings NetworkGreen Finance InstituteUK Green Building Council (UKGBC)DOWNLOAD OUR FREE SUSTAINABILITY COMMUNICATIONS RESOURCE GUIDEAbout the showThe Built Environment Marketing Show is hosted by marketing consultant and content creator Ayo Abbas from Abbas Marketing. It is a show that is unashamedly about marketing for architects and engineers, as well as bringing forward voices that we don't always get to hear. Ways you can support this show 📲 Share about the show on socials🔗 Follow us on Apple or Spotify📝 Leave us a review on Apple or Spotify💬 Tell a friend about the show who you think will benefit.
We're back for 2025 with a new themed approach where I'll be cover a theme or topic from a range of angles over a number of weeks. Today's episode is part I of II. And do I have a treat for you, with two amazing guests, Brigitte Clements and Rosie Cade sustainability and climate change.Key discussion topics include:The role of marketing in sustainabilityTips for effective sustainability communicationThe importance of networking, learning and communityThe role of policy and governmentHow you can upskill and be more informed as a marketerResources and linksAbbas MarketingRising TideLoki Architecture and DevelopmentArchitects Climate Action Network (ACAN)Don't Waste Buildings NetworkGreen Finance InstituteUK Green Building Council (UKGBC)DOWNLOAD OUR FREE SUSTAINABILITY COMMUNICATIONS RESOURCE GUIDEAbout the showThe Built Environment Marketing Show is hosted by marketing consultant and content creator Ayo Abbas from Abbas Marketing. It is a show that is unashamedly about marketing for architects and engineers, as well as bringing forward voices that we don't always get to hear. Ways you can support this show 📲 Share about the show on socials🔗 Follow us on Apple or Spotify📝 Leave us a review on Apple or Spotify💬 Tell a friend about the show who you think will benefit.
We're back baby!! Welcome to the Built Environment Marketing Show hosted by me, marketer Ayo Abbas from Abbas Marketing. This episode is a short one where I'll be sharing more on how I'm planning to take this show forward this year. I've got lots of excited things lined up so do take a listen and if you've any feedback you'd like to give me do email me ayo@abbasmarketing.comIn this episodeBeing backNew format for 25What's happening nextThanks so much for listening to the show and to everyone who has taken time out this year to contribute to the podcast. It's really appreciated. FreebiesSocial media marketing posting checklist Practical Snacks Mini-series PlaybookResources and linksAbbas MarketingAbout the showThe Built Environment Marketing Show is hosted by marketing consultant and content creator Ayo Abbas from Abbas Marketing. It is a show that is unashamedly about marketing for architects and engineers, as well as bringing forward voices that we don't always get to hear. BOOK A CALL TO TALK ABOUT WORKING WITH ME IN 2025.Ways you can support this show 📲 Share about the show on socials🔗 Follow us on Apple or Spotify📝 Leave us a review on Apple or Spotify💬 Tell a friend about the show who you think will benefit.
Today's episode is a veritable ride around The Built Environment Marketing Show podcast in 2024 in our End of year marketing special. It's one where I round up and share the main facts and figures for how this show has performed, who has been on, the topics we've covered and what I think will be happening in 2025 marketing wise. In this episodeData and digits Themes and clips Predictions for 2025 What's next for the showBloopers and outakesThanks so much for listening to the show and to everyone who has taken time out this year to contribute to the podcast. It's really appreciated. Freebies from 2024 Social media marketing posting checklist Practical Snacks Mini-series Playbookesources and linksAbbas MarketingHutton&AgencyAbout the showThe Built Environment Marketing Show is hosted by marketing consultant and content creator Ayo Abbas from Abbas Marketing. It is a show that is unashamedly about marketing for architects and engineers, as well as bringing forward voices that we don't always get to hear. BOOK A CALL TO TALK ABOUT WORKING WITH ME IN 2025.Ways you can support this show 📲 Share about the show on socials🔗 Follow us on Apple or Spotify📝 Leave us a review on Apple or Spotify💬 Tell a friend about the show who you think will benefit.Episodes in 2024 Ep 80: Crafting authentic brands and storytelling in the built environment with Emma Hutton and Nina FarrellEp 79 : UK Government budget marketing next steps special with Ayo Abbas, Stacey Meadwell and Shirin IqbalEp 78 : Positioning for the future: Creating a brave, new brand strategy and voice, Fliss ChildsEp 77: How to win your first projects as a new built environment company?Ep76: Podcast guesting:...
FIND OUT ABOUT AYO'S END OF YEAR SERVICES - 3 services to help your built environment firm thrive in '25. Marketing Strategy Review, Audit and Recommendations and a LinkedIn power Up session. ---Today's episode is all about brand and storytelling but from a consultant's perspective. My guests Nina Farrell from &Agency and Emma Hutton from Hutton are two consultants that I've known for quite a while and work predominately with mid-sized architecture firms. Key discussion topics include:Understanding the connection between storytelling and brandHow to develop your brand strategy to differentiate your practiceThe need to build strong brand foundations Whether brand or strategy are a 'dirty' wordWays to uncover client perceptions about your firmResources and linksAbbas MarketingHutton&AgencyAbout the showThe Built Environment Marketing Show is hosted by marketing consultant and content creator Ayo Abbas from Abbas Marketing. It is a show that is unashamedly about marketing for architects and engineers, as well as bringing forward voices that we don't always get to hear. FIND OUT ABOUT OUR END OF YEAR SERVICESWays you can support this show 📲 Share about the show on socials🔗 Follow us on Apple or Spotify📝 Leave us a review on Apple or Spotify💬 Tell a friend about the show who you think will benefit.
FIND OUT ABOUT AYO'S END OF YEAR SERVICES - 3 services to help your built environment firm thrive in '25. Marketing Strategy Review, Audit and Recommendations and a LinkedIn power Up session. -----The UK budget has just finished so I wanted to fast track the release of this episode about the next steps that UK businesses can take to use B2B content to position themselves with the Government agenda post budget. This episode is a B2B Comms Breakdown live that I hosted last Friday with Stacey Meadwell and Shirin Iqbal. In the live we talked about:How to figure out your message and approach that will resonate with the government agendaWays to find opportunities to share your solutions, thoughts and opinionsWhat journalists want and are looking forThe need for speed and quick turnarounds.About the showTAKE THE BUILT ENVIRONMENT MARKETING SHOW SURVEY AND WIN A POWER HOUR CALLThe Built Environment Marketing Show is hosted by marketing consultant and content creator Ayo Abbas. It is unashamedly about marketing for architects and engineers, as well as bringing forward voices that we don't always get to hear. LinksWork with Ayo and Abbas Marketing - End of Year services Cany Ash - Profitable neighbourhoods campaignWays you can support this show This show is independent and if you're a regular listener you can show your support by:Donate to help cover the costs for making this showSharing about the show on socialsFollowing us on Apple or SpotifyLeaving us a review on Apple or SpotifyOr telling a friend about the show who you think will benefit.
FIND OUT ABOUT AYO'S END OF YEAR SERVICES - 3 services to help your built environment firm thrive in '25. Marketing Strategy Review, Audit and Recommendations and a LinkedIn power Up session. -----FCB Studios is an architectural practice with a strong history for sustainable design, so it was a pleasure to talk to Marketing Partner Fliss Childs about the company rebrand process that she led where they redefined their brand strategy and tone of voice for now and into the future.In this episode, we talked about:How FCB Studios reimagined their brand strategy and found a refreshed voiceWhy choosing an agency outside the architecture industry led to fresh thinking and an impactful branding approachThe importance of storytelling and focusing on social impact and cultural value to elevate their brand storyResources and linksAbbas Marketing FCB StudiosNice and SeriousAbout the showThe Built Environment Marketing Show is hosted by marketing consultant and content creator Ayo Abbas from Abbas Marketing. It is a show that is unashamedly about marketing for architects and engineers, as well as bringing forward voices that we don't always get to hear. Ways you can support this show 📲 Share about the show on socials🔗 Follow us on Apple or Spotify📝 Leave us a review on Apple or Spotify💬 Tell a friend about the show who you think will benefit.
FIND OUT ABOUT AYO'S END OF YEAR SERVICES - 3 services to help your built environment firm thrive in '25. Marketing Strategy Review, Audit and Recommendations and a LinkedIn power Up session. ----When there's upheaval in the construction industry, many new practices spring up from the ashes, as bad news is often the catalyst for people to set up their own businesses. If that's something you're thinking of doing now or in the not too distant future, this episode is for you as it where I ponder 'How to win your first projects as a new built environment company'Even if you're an already established firm, many of the ideas I share in this episode are just as applicable to you. Resources and LinksAbbas Marketing Ep 65: Successful marketing starts with messaging, targeting and positioningSEO basics to keep your content on topMagnus Ström: Ep 25: Finding your niche and focusAbout the showThe Built Environment Marketing Show is hosted by marketing consultant and content creator Ayo Abbas. It is unashamedly about marketing for architects and engineers, as well as bringing forward voices that we don't always get to hear. Ways you can support this show 📲 Share about the show on socials🔗 Follow us on Apple or Spotify📝 Leave us a review on Apple or Spotify💬 Tell a friend about the show who you think will benefit.
According to research recently from Edison Research, more UK adults than ever are actually listening to podcasts, and audiences are getting younger, and way more diverse. So there's an opportunity. Plus, according to RAJAH's Midas survey 21% of the UK population tune into podcasts in an average week and listen to around seven hours of podcasts each week.This episode of 'Practical Snacks' looks at how you can secure more podcast guest bookings. I share:How to research and find relevant podcastsThe key questions to ask yourself in order to create a compelling pitchHow to prepare for a podcast interviewHow to promote a podcast appearanceDOWNLOAD OUR PRACTICAL SNACKS MARKETING MINI-SERIES PLAYBOOK HEREAbout the showPractical Snacks is a special weekly summer mini-series of short, snappy tactical marketing episodes that are under 10 mins on a particular marketing topic or theme. Make sure you follow the show wherever you listen, so you don’t miss out. And do share with others who you think will find this actionable style content valuable.The Built Environment Marketing Show is hosted by Marketing Consultant Ayo Abbas and shares best practice pragmatic marketing approaches for architects and engineers. Resources and linksAbbas Marketing Listen Notes - Good for podcast research as well as Spotify and AppleInterchange podcast - the integrated transport delivery podcast I host and produceWays you can support this show This show is independent and if you're a regular listener you can show your support by:Donate to help cover the costs for making this showSharing about the show on socialsFollowing us on Apple or SpotifyLeaving us a review on Apple or SpotifyOr telling a friend about the show who you think will benefit.
According to Hubspot in 2023 - The return on investment (ROI) for email marketing stands at an impressive $36 for every $1 spent, so many businesses are leaving money on the table.This episode of 'Practical Snacks' looks at email marketing that you can easily set up and start using email and/or newsletters for your business marketing. Practical Snacks is a special weekly summer mini-series of short, snappy tactical marketing episodes that are under 10 mins on a particular marketing topic or theme. The series is brought to you by Ayo Abbas from Abbas Marketing. Make sure you follow the show wherever you listen, so you don’t miss out. And do share with others who you think will find this actionable style content valuable.Resources and linksAbbas MarketingArchitizer Future Fest - How to tell better stories to get better clients free webinarHeadline by Co-ScheduleMailerlite About the showThe Built Environment Marketing Show is hosted by marketing consultant and content creator Ayo Abbas. It is unashamedly about marketing for architects and engineers, as well as bringing forward voices that we don't always get to hear. Catch up on previous 'snacks'SEO basics to help your content rank on GoogleOptimising your website home pageIntroducing Practical SnacksWays you can support this show If you like this show don’t forget that you can help me to spread the word by:Donate to help cover the costs for making this showSharing about the show on socialsFollowing us on Apple or SpotifyLeaving us a review on Apple or Spotify Or telling a friend about the show who you think will benefit.
Google rankings are a great way to drive traffic to your website 24/7. By focusing on Search Engine Optimisation (SEO), you can improve your overall rankings on Google.This episode of practical snacks looks at the SEO basics that you can easily implement in order to put your website content in a stronger position to rank. Practical Snacks is a special weekly summer mini-series of short, snappy tactical marketing episodes that are under 10 mins on a particular marketing topic or theme. The series is brought to you by Ayo Abbas from Abbas Marketing. Make sure you follow the show wherever you listen, so you don’t miss out. And do share with others who you think will find this actionable style content valuable.DOWNLOAD OUR FREE SEO BASICS CHECKLISTResources and linksAbbas MarketingAHREFS SEMRushKeywords EverywhereGoogle Search ConsoleAbout the showThe Built Environment Marketing Show is hosted by marketing consultant and content creator Ayo Abbas. It is unashamedly about marketing for architects and engineers, as well as bringing forward voices that we don't always get to hear. Catch up on previous 'snacks'Optimising your website home pageIntroducing Practical SnacksWays you can support this show If you like this show don’t forget that you can help me to spread the word by:Donate to help cover the costs for making this showSharing about the show on socialsFollowing us on Apple or SpotifyLeaving us a review on Apple or Spotify Or telling a friend about the show who you think will benefit.
First impressions count. Being able to grab the attention of your website visitors as soon as they land on your home page is important if you want to get the most of your digital and online marketing.This episode of practical snacks gives you small tweaks that you can make now to make sure your website home page captures the attention of visitors who land on it. Grab your free optimising your website home page checklist.Practical Snacks is a special weekly summer mini-series of short, snappy tactical marketing episodes that are under 10 mins on a particular marketing topic or theme. The series is brought to you by Ayo Abbas from Abbas Marketing. Make sure you follow the show wherever you listen, so you don’t miss out. And do share with others who you think will find this actionable style content valuable.Resources and linksAbbas MarketingOptimising your website home page checklistAbout the showThe Built Environment Marketing Show is hosted by marketing consultant and content creator Ayo Abbas. It is unashamedly about marketing for architects and engineers, as well as bringing forward voices that we don't always get to hear. Ways you can support this show If you like this show, don’t forget that you can help me to spread the word by:Donate to help cover the costs for making this showSharing about the show on socialsFollowing us on Apple or SpotifyLeaving us a review on Apple or Spotify Or telling a friend about the show who you think will benefit.