The Growth and Influence Podcast

Fast growth in tech and consulting used to be about tactics ... But today, it’s just as much about identity. In the age of AI, where automation, enrichment, and high-volume messaging are the price to play ... There’s a very real risk of losing sight of who we set out to be. Are we still building the kind of business we wanted … or just keeping up? Are we driving the technology ... or is the technology driving us? In this podcast, we explore both the cutting edge tactics and the time-tested values behind businesses that are fast-growing, long-lasting, and make an enormous human impact.

41 - Why Vendor Agnostic Partners Win

Ankit Dhorajiya started his consulting company not with a vendor focus, but a focus on customers and problems. How's that working out? Several years in, he's never had a customer leave...And he's worked with some big customers, including the Indian government, where he helped deliver clean drinking water to 112,000,000 people. Don't miss this episode where Ankit shares the philosophy that has made his company so successful.

11-07
43:09

40 - Leading GTM in the Shift from Services to Products

Grant McLarnon sold a software company to Microsoft and a services company to KPMG. Today, he is the CRO of a Microsoft channel partner undergoing the shift from services to software. Oh - and that company is publicly traded. Grant has unique and rare experiences and insights that are incredibly valuable to anyone operating in a large tech ecosystem like Microsoft. Don't miss this one.

09-05
50:11

39 - Delivery Led vs. Sales Led Growth Strategies for Consulting Firms

Tony DiSanza shares insights on how AI is creating significant changes in the business world, particularly within large tech ecosystems. What growth channels have the best returns on effort? How is this going to change in a world where AI is cannibalizing consulting fees? Tony emphasizes the importance of adapting to AI disruption and the need for strategic approaches to business growth. Discover how firms can thrive by leveraging business technology and embracing a process focus.Consulting firms and ISVs operating in large tech ecosystems: Do You Have the Right Strategies and Systems in Place to Generate Consistent, Qualified Pipeline? Find out here: https://getprofitautomation.com/obrb

08-29
35:08

38 - Big Problem: Tech Channel Partners are Behind on AI

Channel partners are behind on AI, and it's going to hurt their businesses. Here's one example: this company used AI to increase their RFP win rate from ~5% to ~25%...While responding to far more of them. The process for doing so is just one of the high value topics of conversation in this episode. Josh Santiago is a rare animal - a Chief Strategy Officer at a channel consulting firm. The insights he shares in this episode may convince you that every firm - even boutiques - need a Chief Strategy Officer. If you're a channel partner who wants to win more RFPs...Or if you're at all afraid that you're behind the AI adoption curve...Listen to this episode right now.

08-25
47:33

37 - He Lost His Company, Then CAME BACK to Build Another Leading Consulting Firm

Chris Carter lost an SAP partner company and was ready to call it quits. After having to lay off his entire staff... And watch what he had worked so hard to build go up in smoke when one customer made a bad decision...He didn't know if the business was for him. But he came back - mostly because SAP leadership wanted him back in their partner channel. Today, he leads one of SAP's premier consulting partner companies, Approyo, and has pipeline producing partnerships that most channel partners would give their right arm for. How did he come back from his crushing loss? What does he have to say about AI in tech partner channels and how it's going to transform the business of consulting? Listen now to find out. Consulting firms and ISVs operating in large tech ecosystems: Do You Have the Right Strategies and Systems in Place to Generate Consistent, Qualified Pipeline? Find out here: https://getprofitautomation.com/obrb

08-22
39:14

36 - The Fatal Mistake of Nurture Emails

The worst mistake you can make with nurture emails is to not write them. But for those who do write nurture emails, there's a fatal mistake most people make...And it goes hand in hand with the reason conversions are low across the entire marketing funnel. If you write nurture emails (or you don't, but you know you should), don't miss this episode.

08-08
58:33

35 - One-to-Many Selling Webinars

Almost every B2B business knows one-to-one sales. Few have unlocked the power of one-to-many sales. In this episode, I break down the details of a webinar I wrote with Adam Robinson, the founder of Retention.com and RB2B. This webinar sold ~ $30,000 in self-serve annual SaaS subscription the first two times Adam presented it, and sold 15% of the room every time he presented it. Listen to learn more about how you persuade a large audience to take action over a webinar or similar presentation.

04-17
09:13

34 - How to Write Impactful Emails

You want your reader to take action when they read your email. But how do you get someone to spend the time and energy doing something...When the only tool you have is a block of text they're going to read? The answer is in psychology. If you want to influence someone, you must understand what already influences them. Then, you craft language that aligns with the way they see the world.That language can be aligned with either the positive or the negative ways they see the world, but it must be aligned with strongly held views. We'll go deeper in this episode.

02-20
12:07

33 - How to Shorten and Influence the First 70% of the Journey Where Buyers Won't Talk to Sales

It's common knowledge that B2B prospects won't talk to you or your sales team until they're 70 - 75% or more through their decision-making process. Meanwhile, B2B SaaS companies are spending 75 - 107% of new logo ARR on marketing, with most of it going to top of funnel lead generation. See the problem? There's an enormous gap between the money we dump into lead generation, and the step where we actually talk to these leads. This gap is enormous both in terms of the steps a lead must take to reach a sales call... And in the time that expires while a lead is in this gap. Let's talk about how to shorten this gap, and influence leads who are in it so they reach a sales call more frequently, and in a more qualified state.

10-21
12:50

32 - Serving Powerfully: Do You Treat Prospects Like Victims?

Do your prospects feel like victims when you market to them? Is that what you want them to feel? This episode explores the meaning behind the word "solution", and what happens when we market our products as if it is going to solve a problem (which they almost never do - they are only a tool the prospect can use to solve the problem). Listen for some angles on this that you may not have considered before - and what it all means for your marketing.

10-15
10:59

31 - My Business's Revenue, My Mindset Issues, What I'm Learning

This is a work in public episode. I started Profit Automation in Feb 2023 without having a complete vision for what I was building. I had been fired from my job in tech sales, and I knew I wanted to work in an environment where I had more control over my own destiny again... And that's about all I knew. In this episode, I share revenue details, what I've learned, and my own mindset, attitude, and execution strengths and limitations.

10-15
11:58

30 - There's No Known Way to Your Dreams ... Only to Someone Else's

My 15-year old son thinks he may want to be a pilot... But he doesn't want to talk to my friend who just went through the process and crash landed a plane. He's just going to "get online and sign up." What has technology done to our muscles of resourcefulness and creation? It's paved the way to make many of our tasks more effortless, but it has also made us less capable of achieving anything that doesn't have a 3-step process and a submit button. In this episode, we talk about the lost art of resourcefulness.

10-10
13:16

29 - When Prospects Won't Talk Until 70% in the Buying Journey - Do This

In a world where your prospect won’t talk to you until they’re 70% done with their buying journey, and 77% of prospects won’t engage until after their own research... What we’re doing today in B2B SaaS is borderline insane. Bland, banal content created by a content team whose job is not to convert, but to produce volumes of content. The smartest marketers are creating ONE TO MANY selling opportunities. They do this by creating amazing content—but it’s not just a traditional blog post with a “Book a Demo” button on the top of the page. It’s not a recorded webinar that hopes to simply build some brand affinity so the prospect will remember them when they’re ready to engage. This episode will show you what they’re doing instead.

09-28
14:35

28- The SaaS Lead Channel You're Not Using (But Should Be)

If there was a lead channel for your SaaS business where leads would: 1. Close 80% more often 2. Be more profitable and have MUCH lower CAC 3. Churn less often (probably) Would you want to use it? Of course you would! That channel is referrals. Jay Abraham, one of the most successful living marketers, identified 125 ways to get referrals, and says that using 3-4 of them consistently will change a business. Most companies are using 0, and nowhere is this more true than in SaaS. Let's talk about how getting more referrals.

09-24
13:49

27 - B2B Marketing is Shifting Toward B2C - How You Can Adapt

B2B marketing, especially in the tech and SaaS industry, is shifting toward B2C. If you're a marketer, you've heard it you whole career - B2C marketers are better at getting attention, placing products, and generating sales. But B2B was a different beast, and comparisons seemed academic and pointless. Technology and social media have finally reached a tipping point where B2B buyers are influenced more by B2C style content than by B2B. B2B marketers MUST shift the way they do things if they want to stay relevant and grow successful companies. This episode will talk about 3 critical shifts: 1. Selling Results 2. Capturing Attention 3. Bundling Info Products

09-23
29:25

26 - The Lesser Know Connection Between My Past and My Brand

Today's episode is about personal branding - specifically mine. Over the last 18 months, I've been working on my brand to make it reflect the impact I really want to make outside of my personal life. I've learned that you can know who you are, but be bad at sharing that with others. This episode is a public definition of my brand. If you think that's weird, maybe it is - but I'd love your feedback. Leave a comment if you have an opinion.

08-29
30:25

25 - What Top SaaS Companies Will Do in the Future

Want to see the video version of this podcast? See it here: https://youtu.be/Ta_TdcBGng0 I'm making a predication that a marketing and growth tactic that only a very small number of companies are doing right now... Will quickly become a massive trend in how SaaS companies market to and acquire customers. If you're not paying attention to this, you should be.

08-21
20:38

24 - Are You Wasting Time and Money on Brand?

For visuals, find this episode on YouTube also: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSYui1FCDhSGFlZbVMi6CtQ It's all about awareness. Most marketers are familiar with the awareness scale, especially as it applies to B2C marketing. It's essential to marketing to B2B prospects also. But is there an aggregate awareness level in your market as a whole that you should be aware of? And what does this have to do with the effectiveness of your branding efforts? Listen to this episode to find out.

08-15
26:56

23 - Why You Can’t Convert More Leads to Pipeline (SaaS)

The fundamental rules that SaaS marketing has followed to drive leads into the sales pipeline (SLG)... Or persuade free users to upgrade to paid subscriptions (PLG)... No longer work anymore. For over a decade, SaaS has enjoyed an environment where the rules other industries had follow didn't apply here. But as almost-free capital has disappeared and scrutiny on profitability and unit economics has created new definitions for success... SaaS is going to have to start using the principles that companies in other industries use to win. In this episode, I'm going to teach 3 critical keys for converting mildly-engaged leads into the next step in the customer journey.

08-06
21:47

22 - Rewriting Mouseflow's New User Email Flow

In the last episode, I did a teardown of the emails a company called Mouseflow sends to users who sign up for a free account of their product. In this episode, I'm going to walk through three emails I wrote to demonstrate the principles I talked about during the teardown.

08-06
27:13

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