The Hoffman Podcast

“Over the past few years, I’ve dug deeper into connecting with the universe, connecting with nature, knowing that I am supported by forces outside of me.” – Suha Patel Suha Patel arrived at the Hoffman Process eight years ago. Her mantra coming in was, “I want to know who I am. I want to love myself. I want to know what I want. And I want to be able to ask for it.” Over those seven days and the eight years since, Suha has worked hard to know the answers to her questions and live into what she has longed for. Suha as a child Suha spent the majority of her life in her head, problem-solving everything, including herself. But knowing and loving oneself requires more than intellect. During her Process, the Quadcheck, a Hoffman tool, helped Suha discover her whole self. She dove into her whole self when she discovered her Quadrinity: intellect, body, emotional self, and Spiritual Self. Suha describes coming to know a whole inner community within herself, including her dear inner child. When she talks about her inner child, her voice lights up with joy. By spending time with her inner child, she realized why she stayed small and hadn’t stood up for what she wanted. For Suha, one of the great gifts of taking the Process has been a deepened spirituality. Growing up in India, she’d never been to a temple or sought out God. At Hoffman, she connected to something greater than herself – the Universe, nature, and the spiritual forces that support her. By the end of her week at Hoffman, Suha realized the first item in her mantra: to know who she is. She found she knew herself in new and beautiful ways. Asking for what she wants has taken longer, but Suha is steadily working toward fulfilling her beautiful mantra. We hope you enjoy this joyful conversation with Suha and Sadie. Listen on Apple Podcasts More about Suha Patel: Suha Patel is a global business leader, mentor, and lifelong student of human behavior whose journey has spanned four continents, executive leadership, and deep personal transformation. As a biotech executive, she spent decades leading in high-performance environments while quietly believing that staying small and silent was the safest way to move through the world. Her path into self-awareness, nervous system healing, and inner-child work has radically changed the way she understands leadership, relationships, identity, and emotional well-being. Today, Suha is passionate about exploring the invisible patterns that shape our lives – the survival strategies we mistake for personality, and the ways unresolved emotional experiences quietly influence how we love, lead, speak, and connect. Through honest storytelling and deep reflection, she brings a grounded, compassionate perspective to conversations about healing, self-awareness, emotional regulation, and what it truly means to feel safe enough to become oneself. Follow Suha on Instagram. As mentioned in this episode: Hoffman Q2 Intensive: Our three-day graduate program The Enneagram (of Personality) Undefended Love by Jett Psaris The QuadCheck (Quadrinity Check-in): A Hoffman tool done daily to check in with all four parts of the Quadrinity: the intellect, the emotional self, the body, and the Spiritual Self. Instagram Lives: We host two Instagram Lives daily. ¤ Join our virtual community Quad-Check at 8:00 am PT on Instagram. The Quad Check practice supports you in integrating and honoring your Quadrinity: Spiritual Self, Intellect, Emotional Self, and your Body. ¤ Join our daily Appreciation and Gratitude practice at 6:00 pm PT on Instagram. The Appreciation and Gratitude practice is a beautiful way to reflect on your day. This practice supports your Spiritual Self’s natural desire to appreciate and give thanks for all that life brings you. Elevators – 17:15 – 18:31  Suha describes what an elevator is and what happened for her when she did them at the Process. The Hoffman App After completing a Hoffman course, the Hoffman App can support you as you continue this journey, today and far into the future. The app offers guidance, practices, and visualizations to inspire and help you achieve your personal goals. We like to think of this app as “Hoffman in your pocket.” The Hoffman App is available at the App Store. Find out more about the creation of Hoffman’s app with Kevin Eyres, Hoffman Teacher, on the Hoffman Podcast: Beyond the Intellect. The Second Mountain: The Quest for a Moral Life, by David Brooks.  

“Whether you did the Process with someone in your cohort or you find someone at a coffee shop with a Quadrinity sticker on their water bottle, there’s sort of that immediate recognition of, ‘Hello, another me, myself! Hello, a kindred spirit!‘” – Jasin Deegan Hoffman Alumni Department Manager Jasin Deegan completed the Hoffman Process at White Sulphur Springs in 2019. Just a few months later, he joined the Hoffman Institute in his first role. Jasin has a hunger to serve others. It’s the nature of his Spirit. And he loves the Process. Six years on, it’s a beautiful match that now serves the global Hoffman community. Before taking the Process, Jasin completed many personal transformational experiences. He arrived at the Process wanting “all the self-help resources” so he could “finally be this optimal person of service in the world.“ In his Process, he realized this was his own form of Do-Be-Have, trying to find his true Self by collecting more and more tools and resources. In an epiphany, Jasin realized he already was this “person of service.” It was simply time to be himself in a role that brought him joy and purpose. This seed of understanding was planted in his Process. It has steadily grown within him over the past six years at Hoffman. And now, with ith Jasin at the helm of the Alumni Department, the alumni department team has created the new Hoffman Alumni Home and Hoffman Alumni Circle. These online community spaces are where we can gather as a global alumni community of all Hoffman Programs. As Jasin says, there’s “an immediate recognition” when we meet another Hoffman friend, a kindred spirit. We hope you enjoy this warm conversation with Jasin and Sadie. Listen on Apple Podcasts Listen on Spotify More about Jasin Deegan: Jasin Deegan has served as a transformational facilitator and guide for over fifteen years. He is dedicated to serving others on their healing and transformational journeys and is passionate about how peak experiences expand human consciousness. Jasin completed the Hoffman Process in December of 2019 and has been part of the Hoffman Institute since June 2020. Now serving as Alumni Department Manager, Jasin passionately supports Hoffman graduates who continue to do their post-Process work. As Alumni Department Manager, Jasin has led the development and design of Hoffman Alumni Home. This online community centralizes graduate resources and provides a space where Hoffman graduates can connect and build community. Before joining the Hoffman Institute, Jasin was a Shamanic Breathwork facilitator, using breathwork, ritual and ceremony, and contemplative practices to support others along their transformational and healing journeys. Jasin is trained and certified in Shamanic Breathwork through Venus Rising Association for Transformation. There, he cultivated his passion and sacred purpose for transformational service work through these direct studies. Jasin is pursuing his degree in psychology from San Francisco State University and lives with his husband in San Francisco, California. As mentioned in this episode: HOFFMAN ALUMNI HOME alumni.hoffmaninstitute.org/feed Hoffman Alumni Home is a dedicated space for Hoffman graduates to access alumni resources, connect to the community, and continue engaging with the work beyond their foundational Hoffman program. HOFFMAN ALUMNI CIRCLE alumni.hoffmaninstitute.org/hoffman-alumni-circle Hoffman Alumni Circle is a membership designed to support graduates’ continued growth, providing exclusive access to master classes and visualizations, teacher-led virtual sessions, early access to and discounts on graduate programming, and more. This paid membership lives within Hoffman Alumni Home and helps graduates sustain and deepen their Hoffman practice. Liza Ingrasci, Past CEO and President Liza and her late husband, Raz Ingrasci, founded the Hoffman Institute Foundation. Liza served as CEO and President for many years. She is now retired. The Ceremony of Integration Dinner: Before COVID, Hoffman Process graduates could attend this dinner held on the Thursday night of each Process to support the current students on their evening of integration. There is no longer a COI dinner in the US; however, it is still in practice in other countries. Bob Hoffman “Fire your therapist and go live your life.” The Hoffman Q2 Intensive Hoffman Webclasses Hosted and led by Hoffman teachers via Zoom, our live, interactive webclasses cover a wide variety of topics, including tools and practices from the Process and Hoffman Essentials. Graduate Groups Coaching Programs The Hoffman Quadrinity Symbol What is Breathwork? Jasin is trained to do this breathwork. Nita Gage, Hoffman Teacher. •   Listen to Nita on the Hoffman Podcast – A Courageous Ripple Be-Do-Have vs. Do-Have-Be: Be-Do-Have brings us the life we long for. We get the life we are taught we should strive for when we Do-Have-Be. Dharma

“Maybe there’s a person who’s written a book, or a professor who’s done some kind of research, and then they build a curriculum based on that perfectly wonderful approach to things. But that is not the Hoffman Process, right? Because, really, Bob Hoffman understood things more intuitively. …This is a wisdom tradition program.“ – Jo Mattoon Welcome to season 13 of Love’s Everyday Radius. Our guest is beloved Hoffman Process teacher, Jo Mattoon. In this fascinating conversation, Jo shares the ongoing changes happening within Hoffman Institute Foundation and the new Hoffman centers worldwide. Behind the scenes, Hoffman teachers and staff work to support the change and growth needed to meet the desires of those ready to take the Process and of our alumni. You’ll hear stories about Bob Hoffman and his collaborators who supported him in creating the Process. As Programs Manager, Jo shares how the Process training guide is continually updated while remaining true to its roots. And in the stories about the new Hoffman Center in China, you’ll discover how the wisdom tradition at the heart of the Process can support different cultures worldwide. From the growth and development of our teaching team, to the occasional updates integrated into the Process, to our new alumni portal, Hoffman Alumni Home, the Hoffman Institute continues to fulfill Bob Hoffman’s vision of “world peace one person at a time.” Hoffman International continues to grow its capacity to offer the Process around the world and shepherd serious change and transformation in those who attend through the opening of new centers around the world. At the center of everything Hoffman does are the deep roots of wisdom that have grounded the Process since its earliest inception. Deep roots support new strong shoots. We hope you enjoy this grounded, wise conversation.   https://youtu.be/F9iq_XheMDM Listen on Apple Podcasts Listen on Spotify More about Jo Mattoon: Jo and friends in the Swiss Alps Jo Mattoon holds a B.A. in the Humanities and a Master’s in Public Administration. Her first career was as a Human Resources executive; her second career was as an executive coach/leadership trainer. She has now found her true purpose in teaching/coaching for the Hoffman Process. In addition to teaching and coaching, Jo leads the Programs Team for Hoffman Institute Foundation (HIF). The team is responsible for the development and upkeep of all of HIF’s program curriculum, including the Process and alumni offerings. A fourth-generation Coloradan, Jo loves travel, learning, finding the humor in life, coyotes, the arts, and tasty food. You can find out more about Jo by following her on Instagram. As mentioned in this episode: Hoffman Process Canada venue in Calgary, Alberta: Sanctum Hoffman Center, China •   Discover more about China Hoffman: Hoffman Process® Launches in China.  •   Honoring the parents is a cultural value in China:      “Filial piety is the virtue of exhibiting love and respect for one’s parents, elders, and ancestors…” Read more… Jo Mattoon and Yifeng enjoying tea in China. Yifeng is the logistics/IT/everything else man for Hoffman China. Hoffman International •   Hoffman International Conference at Hoffman Institute, Germany. •   17 Hoffman Centers in 14 countries worldwide. Hoffman teachers & staff mentioned concerning Hoffman China: ¤  Crystal Jenkins, Hoffman teacher and Director of Teacher Training. •   Matt Brannagan, Hoffman teacher and CEO – Listen to Matt on the Hoffman Podcast. ¤  Kevin Eyres, Hoffman teacher – Listen to Kevin on the Hoffman Podcast. •   Michelle Smith – Hoffman logistics. Bob Hoffman, Founder of the Hoffman Process. Claudio Naranjo, Chilean psychiatrist and pioneer in integrating psychotherapy and spiritual traditions. Raz Ingrasci, beloved Hoffman teacher and founder of the Hoffman Institute Foundation. •   Listen to Raz on the Hoffman Podcast Andy Milberg, a beloved Hoffman teacher. •   Listen to Andy on the Hoffman Podcast •   Listen to Andy talking about the Negative Love Syndrome on the Hoffman Podcast  Hoffman Programs Team: •   Jo Mattoon – Programs Manager since 2022. ¤  Shawn McAndrew – Hoffman Editor and Programs Specialist. •   Jason Beegle – Hoffman Process Teacher. ¤  Jess Zimerman – Hoffman Process Teacher. Jasin Deegan – Alumni Department Manager and creator of Hoffman Alumni Home HOFFMAN ALUMNI HOME:  Hoffman Alumni Home is a dedicated space for Hoffman graduates to access alumni resources, connect to the community, and continue engaging with the work beyond their foundational Hoffman program. Hoffman Tools mentioned: ¤  The Cycle of Transformation: https://youtu.be/EIKfjNdpgsk?si=Sl8B_9hJpTI7aib8 Self-Compassion & Kristin Neff Listen to Kristin Neff on The Hoffman Podcast Kristin says that compassion has three components: kindness, mindfulness, and humanity. “Compassion is grounded in a sense of shared humanity.” At its core, compassion is the understanding that we are doing the best we can, moment to moment. That we are human beings. We are part of a much larger whole. Moment by moment, we are doing the best we can, learning and trying with care and love. If we learn this, things become much easier to deal with. Kristin also writes about Fierce Self-Compassion, as diagrammed below.    

“If we imagine fear as this tight fist that says, I’m not going to let go, I need to keep you safe, love comes in as just this warm hug, and it’s like, It’s all right, sweetheart, I’ve got you, you don’t have to hold this burden anymore. And the fear doesn’t want to do this…. It is doing it because it does not believe there is another path for you in order to survive or get your needs met.” – Cory Muscara Cory and Drew Cory Muscara Former monk and down-to-earth spiritual teacher Cory Muscara wraps up Season 12 with a powerful exploration of the lived human experience. Cory is not a graduate of the Hoffman Process, but he has recommended it to many and plans on attending in the near future. The ethos of his work blends beautifully with that of the Process. After a painful relationship breakup in his twenties, Cory began to meditate as a way to support himself. Realizing he wanted to go deeper into meditation, he headed to a monastery in Burma for a 6-month meditation retreat. Truly, it is hard to summarize this conversation. Like life, it must be experienced. You can feel the invitation to soften when in Cory’s presence as he articulates the process of internal healing and self-compassion. Later in the conversation, Drew mentions that a Process is completing just down the hill. He asks Cory what he might tell them. Cory offers a compassionate response to them and ultimately to all of us. He shares that leaving a retreat such as the Process and heading back into life offers us the opportunity to continue the work to heal, realizing that life is the meditation cushion. Life is where the ‘work’ continues. It is also where love can blossom with more ease and grace for ourselves and others. We hope you enjoy this wise and compassionate conversation with Cory and Drew. We’ll see you again in late August when we launch season 13. Thanks for listening and watching. We appreciate you. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bgf3BpOFloY Listen on Apple Podcasts Listen on Spotify More about Cory Muscara: Cory Muscara is a former monk, host of the Practicing Human podcast, and bestselling author of the book Stop Missing Your Life. With over 1.5MM followers across his social media channels, Cory has gained popularity for his down-to-earth teachings on mindfulness, wellbeing, and mental health. Cory has taught mindful leadership at Columbia University, is an instructor in Positive Psychology at the University of Pennsylvania, and, for the last decade, has offered mindfulness keynotes, workshops, and retreats around the world, helping people find peace and transformation in a chaotic world. Cory’s meditations have been heard more than 50 million times in over 150 countries. His goal is to share wisdom teachings in a practical and accessible way. Discover more about Cory here and find resources here. Follow Cory on Instagram and LinkedIn. As mentioned in this episode: The monastery Cory resided at is Panditarama Hse Main Gon Forest Meditation Center in Burma. Cory’s teacher, Sayadaw U Pandita Sayadaw means “venerable teacher.” Vipassana Meditation. •   Vipassana means to “see things as they really are.”•   Vipassana meditation is one of India’s most ancient meditation techniques. Walking meditation: •   Thich Nhat Hanh on How to Take a Mindful Walk Attunement Internal Family Systems (IFS) •   IFS Model, Parts, and Protective Patterns •   Richard Schwartz – Listen to Richard on the Hoffman Podcast: IFS & the Unburdening of Self The productivity tool Cory mentioned is ToDoist. C.A.R.E. – Connect. Appreciate. Reveal. Empathize. 19:44 (video), 18:47 (audio) Two levels of pain: Primary and Secondary pain 37:09 (video), 34:40 (audio) Cory’s episode is the first one we filmed at our new Hoffman Podcast Studio at Santa Sabina. We celebrated this inaugural episode with a crew photo. Drew Horning – Host, Cory Muscara – Guest, Julie Daley – Executive Producer, Mike Ingrasci – Director of Marketing, outside the new studio at Hoffman Retreat Center, Santa Sabina.

“It was this conversation between three generations — but I was the only one who could speak. Someone wise told me to recognize the gifts that come with change. That was really a gift. There’s a connection there across generations. And that’s really what Hoffman does.” – Mike Ingrasci Drew and Mike/Hoffman Podcast Studio Hoffman’s Director of Marketing, Mike Ingrasci, sits down with Drew to talk marketing, brand, and his Hoffman experience. The son of Raz and Liza Ingrasci, founders of the Institute, Mike’s experience of Hoffman goes way back. He shares, “I think that I got Hoffman a bit through osmosis, whether it was like whispers in the house, teachers who came to visit at dinner, just the way in which my parents raised us as children. …They really let us be kids, and they were protective of that, because they had done the Process, and they knew what that meant.” Raz, Mike, and Leo Since Raz’s passing, Mike has reflected on the gifts that come with change. His friend suggested this as a way through the tough time ahead. Between the day Raz passed away, Dec 31, 2025, and the day of his Celebration of Life in March, Mike and Sara needed to take turns putting Leo to bed. Leo was going through a stage where he didn’t want to be left alone. So every other evening, Mike would lie on the floor by Leo, writing into his Notes app on his phone. One night, he realized that there were three generations linked – father, son, grandson – and only one of them – Mike – could speak. He continued to write the words from this generational connection, eventually sharing them with the over 1500 friends and family gathered. As Mike shares, this is a cornerstone of what Hoffman is about. Aligning and refining Hoffman’s Brand: As Director of Marketing, one of Mike’s goals is to align and refine Hoffman’s brand to accurately reflect the decades of powerful transformational experiences of well over 100,000 Process graduates. When young, Mike had a hard time knowing how to talk about the Process. He knew his parents were ‘helping people,’ and that they loved and wholeheartedly believed in the Process. Once Mike took the Process in 2009, he understood, as a lived experience, what he could never conceptualize. And now, it is perfect that he is the guide for this elevation of Hoffman’s brand into something that reflects what it is and makes it welcoming, understandable, and reflective of its organic coolness. Armed with a mood board, Instagram, and a lifetime surrounded by Hoffman, Mike is crafting an ever-evolving invitation into the profound beauty and magic of the Hoffman Process. For Mike, Brand = Promise + Experience + Reputation.  At Hoffman, these three things have always been incredibly strong. The Process delivers on its promise, the experience is transformative, and the reputation speaks for itself. Mike’s approach isn’t about changing any of that…it’s about building the world around it: creating an ecosystem that feels thoughtful, elevated, and welcoming for both people discovering Hoffman for the first time and graduates who continue to engage with it for years. His goal is simple: to make every touchpoint reflect the integrity of the Process, and elevate how Hoffman is experienced and perceived while remaining true to the work itself. We hope you feel the warmth and care of this invitation and conversation. https://youtu.be/OlvZy60Vjkc Listen on Apple Podcasts Listen on Spotify More about Mike Ingrasci: Liza, Mike, Raz, and Marissa Long before joining the Hoffman Institute as Director of Marketing, Mike Ingrasci was embraced by the Process. His parents, Raz and Liza Ingrasci, served as its stewards for decades. Hoffman was woven into the fabric of Mike’s childhood. Mike earned a BFA from USC’s School of Cinematic Arts before beginning his career as Director of Video at Rock ‘n’ Roll Fantasy Camp. He joined Barack Obama’s historic 2008 presidential campaign as an intern, then became a key member of the 2012 Obama campaign’s Chicago-based video team. He produced content for the President throughout his successful re-election campaign. This experience reinforced Mike’s belief in the power of storytelling to move people and create change. Leo, Mike, Sara Ingrasci Over twelve years, Mike helped build John Elliott into one of the world’s most respected independent fashion brands. He led sales and brand marketing while helping shape its creative voice. During Mike’s tenure, the brand earned accolades, including GQ’s Best New Menswear Designer, presented runway shows in New York and Paris, and collaborated with globally recognized brands Nike, Converse, Gap, and more. That experience shaped Mike’s approach to marketing: the best stories don’t sell — they connect. Although Mike grew up around Hoffman, the Process itself remained unknown until he attended in 2009. His biggest takeaway? While many of us spend our lives searching for love outside ourselves, we’re ultimately looking for the ability to give more love — and the openness to receive it. This realization underscores Mike’s work, relationships, approach to fatherhood, and the stories he tells. Mike lives in Northern California with his wife, Sara, and their two-year-old son, Leonardo “Leo” James. Leo’s middle name honors Raz, whose lifelong dedication to the human potential movement inspires Mike’s work and belief in the transformative power of the Process. Discover more: Follow Mike on Instagram and Facebook. As mentioned in this episode: Raz and Liza Ingrasci, Founders of the Hoffman Institute Foundation •   Liza is the former CEO and President. Raz was a Hoffman teacher and the former Chairman of Hoffman International. Listen to Raz on the Hoffman Podcast: Husband, Father, Son •   Liza and Raz Ingrasci’s stated mission: “Our mission is to provide people greater access to the wisdom and power of love in themselves, in each other, and in the world.” Mike filming during the Obama campaign. Mike was drawn to the message of hope and change. Oprah and Raz on the Oprah Podcast Maria Shriver shares her Process experience on the Oprah Podcast. Hoffman on Instagram: Daily 8 am PT Quad checks and 6 pm PT Appreciation and Gratitude posts Inside(r) Baseball New Age Hoffman Process Scholarships Ongoing Hoffman programs: The Q2 three-day intensive: Beyond Mom and Dad Webclasses One-day Refreshers The iPhone Notes App The Ingrasci Family photo, Thanksgiving, 2025 Charles “Raz” James Ingrasci Obituary Video recording of Charles “Raz” Ingrasci Celebration of Life, March 14, 2026 “Look at the hoop, close your eyes, and think of something you love, and it will go through.” – Raz Ingrasci “Love is a renewable resource.” – Raz Ingrasci