The Passion People Podcast

For our Season 3 finale, Naga is in conversation with podcaster and content guru - Jay Acunzo to discuss, what differentiates great creators from all others, how to find your first 10-50 true fans? Is there a one size fits all approach to monetization?   Reach out to Jay Acunzo and Check out his content - Member Group (Paid) - https://jayacunzo.com/membership  Podcast - 3 Clips – https://jayacunzo.com/3-clips  Podcast - Unthinkable – https://jayacunzo.com/unthinkable-podcast  Twitter – https://twitter.com/jayacunzo Website - https://jayacunzo.com/  Books: Break the Wheel: Question Best Practices, Hone Your Intuition, and Do Your Best Work   Reach out to Naga –  Twitter - @n1n3stuff / @PassionPeop1 (https://twitter.com/ThePassionPeop1 ) Facebook - The Passion People Podcast Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/thepassionpeoplepodcast/   More about EpLog Media - You can follow us and leave us feedback on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter @eplogmedia, For advertising/partnerships send you can send us an email at bonjour@eplog.media. If you like this show, please subscribe and leave us a review wherever you get your podcasts, so other people can find us. You can also find us on https://www.eplog.media/thepassionpeoplepodcast   DISCLAIMER: The views expressed on all the shows produced and distributed by Ep.Log Media are personal to the host and the guest of the shows respectively and with no intention to harm the sentiments of any individual/organisation. The said content is not obscene or blasphemous or defamatory of any event and/or person deceased or alive or in contempt of court or breach of contract or breach of privilege, or in violation of any provisions of the statute, nor hurt the sentiments of any religious groups/ person/government/non-government authorities and/or breach or be against any declared public policy of any nation or state.   Sound Attribution and Credits - Music from Pipo and Wowa(you should check out their music on Spotify here - https://open.spotify.com/artist/6zZPxLiRfbGUnoEAJmfJJN) from Unminus. All music other than the jingle on the episode is under the CC0 License and downloaded from freesound.org , freemusicarchive.org and unminus.com Transcript [00:00:00] Jay Acunzo: [00:00:00] you hear the phrase creator economy used quite often. And I think what we're living through is a very dangerous transition for a group of people who are trying to earn a living and a comfortable living at that using their creativity. [00:00:15]it's also very dangerous because with that momentum comes this, misunderstanding that to do this, you need to be famous that you need to be an influencer. And I think fame and influence  is becoming way too closely tied to the creator economy. [00:00:31]most importantly, this shifting mindset from essentially building on rented land like YouTube or Twitter and moving over to a platform you actually own like your own website and email list. [00:00:43] Naga S: [00:00:43] Hey Jay. Hello and welcome to the passionate people podcast. And thank you for taking the time [00:00:48] to be on the show. [00:00:49]Jay Acunzo: [00:00:49] Thanks for having me. I really appreciate it, [00:00:50]Naga S: [00:00:50] Jay, you have an extremely unique perspective, given your background in content marketing, the kind of shows that you've launched and the amazing work that you do at three clips. [00:01:01]So as, as we start. I would love to just get like a 30,000 feet view of the content landscape from your lens and how it looked at the start of 2020 and how COVID has changed it. [00:01:13]Jay Acunzo: [00:01:13] Yeah.  I'd love to answer. I spend very little time thinking about the trends and what everyone else is doing, because if I did that, I think I would probably break down. [00:01:22]I'm so focused on trying to. Serve the audience that I'd like to serve that it's difficult to follow the trends, but I will say that I think what we're living through,  you hear the phrase creator economy used quite often. And I think what we're living through is a very dangerous transition for a group of people who are trying to earn a living and a comfortable living at that using their creativity. [00:01:46]Because on the one hand you have momentum. Which is helping more and more people say, well, I have this craft,  for me,  I like to create shows. I like to tell stories about the workplace. Somebody else might focus on a different niche, [00:02:00] but I have this creative craft. It's never been a better time to go and build your own audience, which by the way means moving off of social media, using social media, but not stopping there, moving people to your website and your email list, building an audience. [00:02:14]And serving that audience more deeply with products and experiences that they pay for. So it's never been a better time for that, but it's also very dangerous because with that momentum comes this, misunderstanding that to do this, you need to be famous that you need to be an influencer. And I think fame and influence  is becoming way too closely tied to the creator economy. [00:02:39]So I think where I'd like to see this all go. Is to have a middle-class develop. So middle-class in a, like a classic sense that there's a sociologist named Dennis Gilbert. He wrote a great book called the American class structure in an age of growing and an inequality. And Gilbert defines middle-class as upper and lower middle-class. [00:02:59] So there's two little segments, but they combined to make up about 45 to 50% of the total population. And that 45 to 50% is judged based on their ability to have a comfortable standard of living significant economic security, considerable work autonomy, and a reliance on their own expertise to sustain themselves. [00:03:21]So what I'd like to see is a future in the not too distant future, by the way, where we stop trying to be super famous and have. Massive and impressive audience reach. And we actually truly embrace the ideas like Kevin Kelly's 1000 true fans or Seth Godin's smallest viable audience and try and find a small number of people who react in a big way to what we do and serve them more deeply. [00:03:49]And how do we get there? I think we need to stop trying to be social media famous and trying to serve people with our craft. So  my fear. Is that way too many people are [00:04:00] way too excited about more and more, more bigger, bigger, bigger, get famous in a niche or anything. General. My hope is that we can get to a place where 45 to 50%. [00:04:08] And that's, I think that's the bar. If you look at all, creators are 45 are about half of them able to earn a comfortable standard of living with significant economic security work autonomy. Using their expertise to sustain themselves. And I think it's going to take a lot of education to get there better tools. [00:04:27]And most importantly, this shifting mindset from essentially building on rented land like YouTube or Twitter and moving over to a platform you actually own like your own website and email list. [00:04:39]Naga S: [00:04:39] Got it. Let me double click on some of the concepts that you've spoken about here. Right? First one is Kevin Kelly's , a hundred true fans or legions thousand true fans, or what they talk about in terms of how much money are these folks willing to give you so that you are able to pursue your craft. [00:04:56]Right? So in order for us to be able to get to these thousand of these hundred people, you will at least need to reach like a 10,000 folks or like, you know, 5,000 folks. Right. And they might eventually convert into those smaller number of people who might end up being, who are potentially be able to sustain us financially. [00:05:14]So if your suggestion is for folks not to be too worried about having a broad reach, or I think what you're really trying to say is that people should not approach like a, have a spray and pray approach, where they say that I'm trying to get  everyone is my audience. And you're saying that you really need to have a niche. [00:05:31]But my question is more fundamental in terms of how do you really build that first initial audience who would be like the top of the funnel for your paying customers later on? [00:05:41]Jay Acunzo: [00:05:41] Everything I'm about to say is going to sound incredibly hard to do, because everybody wants to see the final result, but I assure you, I don't know any other way to do this other than you get incredibly lucky. [00:05:51]Lightning strikes and suddenly lots of people know who you are. So I think those stories are mostly myth here. Here's what I encourage people to [00:06:00] do. Stop thinking about the funnel and think about your audience as a series of concentric circles. So kind of like a bullseye in the middle and bigger and bigger circles moving out from the middle. [00:06:09]When you think of it like a funnel, I think you do think of it kind of the way you just described it, Naga where you need to reach 10,000 people to get a hundred or a thousand to. For example, subscribed to your newsletter. I actually think you need to just put aside the funnel, right? Stop trying to reach a lot of people first and convert a few people in the end of it all. [00:06:29]And start thinking about these concentric circles, where in the middle there's this circle called super fans. And as you radiate out from super fans, you get closer and closer to total strangers. What most of us try to do when we market, what we do is we go to total, strangers may be passive observers of our work, and we try to basically try to get them to like us quickly. [00:06:52]And that makes no sense. So whether you think in like human relationship terms or dollars and cents. It's inefficient and ineffective to try and convince total strangers that you're worth subscribing to or paying it's a lot easier and a lot more in line with how humans work to go to five other human beings that, you know, you can serve more deeply and try to build somethi

Is there really such a thing called passive income? Is it accessible to creators? Dive into the nuances of the world of Affiliate marketing with an affiliate marketing veteran who's in the business for a decade and now derives all of this creator income from affiliate marketing. Reach out to Dilip and Check out his content - Affiliate Marketing Blog – https://dkspeaks.com Podcast about Podcasting – https://thepodcastinguniversity.com Tastes of India Podcast - https://thetastesofindia.com/ Instagram – https://instagram.com/dkspeaks Facebook – https://facebook.com/dkspeaks Twitter – https://twitter.com/dkspeaks Pinterest – https://pinterest.com/dkspeaks   Reach out to Naga –  Twitter - @n1n3stuff / @PassionPeop1 (https://twitter.com/ThePassionPeop1 ) Facebook - The Passion People Podcast email - naagasubramanya@gmail.com Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/thepassionpeoplepodcast/   More about EpLog Media - You can follow us and leave us feedback on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter @eplogmedia, For advertising/partnerships send you can send us an email at bonjour@eplog.media. If you like this show, please subscribe and leave us a review wherever you get your podcasts, so other people can find us. You can also find us on https://www.eplog.media/thepassionpeoplepodcast DISCLAIMER: The views expressed on all the shows produced and distributed by Ep.Log Media are personal to the host and the guest of the shows respectively and with no intention to harm the sentiments of any individual/organisation. The said content is not obscene or blasphemous or defamatory of any event and/or person deceased or alive or in contempt of court or breach of contract or breach of privilege, or in violation of any provisions of the statute, nor hurt the sentiments of any religious groups/ person/government/non-government authorities and/or breach or be against any declared public policy of any nation or state.   Sound Attribution and Credits - Music from Pipo and Wowa(you should check out their music on Spotify here - https://open.spotify.com/artist/6zZPxLiRfbGUnoEAJmfJJN) from Unminus. All music other than the jingle on the episode is under the CC0 License and downloaded from freesound.org , freemusicarchive.org and unminus.com Transcript [00:00:00]R Dilip Kumar: [00:00:00] Promoting products on my niche websites, creating niche websites that are solely focused on affiliate marketing. [00:00:06] When I look at my podcasting journey and  what my goals for podcasting was, I was never looking at monetizing the taste of India podcast from the perspective that most podcasters look at it , sponsorships andmaybe a merchandise or, ads. [00:00:21] So I wasn't looking at it from that perspective. My sole objective was to drive all of that traffic to my blog and then monetize my blog [00:00:30]But once you've done it, if you're able to drive traffic to it, , it's income that stays there, that's passive. So people just come visit those posts, click on those links, buy and you'll get paid a commission. [00:00:42] Naga S: [00:00:42] Hi, Dilip. Hello and welcome to the passion people podcast. [00:00:45]R Dilip Kumar: [00:00:45] Thanks for having me here. I was looking for forward to this conversation for some time, [00:00:48]Naga S: [00:00:48] can you tell us your story I know you run  an affiliate marketing blog an affiliate marketing podcast, and you're also  a great content creator in your own right with both you and your wife, having such famous websites and podcasts. [00:01:01]R Dilip Kumar: [00:01:01] Thanks.  I have been an affiliate marketers since 2003. Okay. So is when I first learned about affiliate marketing it wasn't purely affiliate marketing. I started off with understanding what blogging was, and that was when, blogging was slowly taking off. [00:01:18]I went into affiliate marketing because my objective of getting into blogging was to use the expertise or the knowledge that I had and make money. And just to give you a context, , 2002, 2003 was a time when. People who are making a lot of money using Google AdSense on their blogs and these blogs weren't really, extremely good content. [00:01:40] It was just some content that they were putting out there. They were putting some Google AdSense in there and they were kind of making money. So that is where I actually started. And Google AdSense, wasn't really a very reliable option for me.  I diversified into learning, understanding what affiliate marketing is, [00:02:00] and that's how I got into affiliate marketing in 2003 is when I first put together my affiliate marketing website. [00:02:07] But. Slowly and gradually I kind of graduated into a little more advanced methods in affiliate marketing, building, very niche specific sites that is oriented towards affiliate marketing. And that's what I've continued to do over the last, I think 14, 15 years [00:02:25] ,  I came into podcasting first. The first podcast that I listened to was somewhere around 2005, 2006,  there was this guy, Yarrow Starack  it was Yarrow from who's ,  small course that I happened to learn what blogging is and what affiliate marketing is all about. [00:02:41] So Yarrow had a podcast somewhere in  2005 and it was something very new, not a lot of podcasts. So that's whereI first encountered a podcast. I started my podcast on affiliate marketing for my primary blog Dkspeaks.com somewhere around 2010, 2011. Did it for almost about two years, but then, I was getting pulled into multiple directions because I wanted to focus my energy on something that I was doing for a long time. [00:03:12] And I felt that somehow podcasting was taking a little too much time of mine.   One of the reason was that, , my wife started her blog that is thetastesofindia.com . [00:03:21] That was in 2008 when she started. And there was a lot of energy that we were putting in to promoting that blog, building the audience. We had a lot of issues in terms of some hosting, going down a lot of content going down. So. I was  getting involved in a lot of these things that is where I took a break from podcasting on DK, speaks.com and then continued with affiliate marketing for a while until 2015. [00:03:49]When , once again we felt that podcasting could be a good addition to what we were doing on the taste of India. And that is [00:04:00] where we started off podcasting again in 2015, September was when the first episode of the taste of India podcast came out. Since then we've consistently been releasing shows on the taste of India podcast. [00:04:12] And it's been about an year that I started the podcasting university.com   and the podcast there. So it's a year. Because of the COVID impact,  I had to take a little break there, but then these other two podcast projects that I'm running right now, but primarily I am into affiliate marketing. [00:04:30]Promoting products on my niche websites, creating niche websites that are solely focused on affiliate marketing. [00:04:36]Naga S: [00:04:36] I understand. Let's dive right into the meat of the matter, ? So how much of your total income is delayed from affiliate marketing currently in a percentage, if I can ask you [00:04:47] R Dilip Kumar: [00:04:47] It is almost a hundred percent. Once again, go back to how we started podcasts for the taste of India. I, to talk about the taste of India right now. So, when we started podcast that is suffering the podcast, it was not to start a podcast. [00:05:02] It was to look at an alternate channel. To promote our existing blog@thetasteofindia.com. So there was another audience. Who is focused on audio. And we felt that if we could engage with that audience who were focused on audio, we can bring them back to our websites and in fact, the blog as well. [00:05:25] That is how we started with the taste of India podcast. So. When I look at my podcasting journey and  what my goals for podcasting was, I was never looking at monetizing the taste of India podcast from the perspective that most podcasters look at it , sponsorships and maybe a merchandise or, ads. [00:05:44] So I wasn't looking at it from that perspective. My sole objective was to drive all of that traffic to my blog and then monetize my blog. So that's what we followed since the tastesofindia.com as a podcast started, and [00:06:00] we've mostly driving traffic back to our blog itself and  our earning is primarily from affiliate marketing that we're doing on the blog. [00:06:06]So we've even stopped.  Google ads on the taste of India right now, because  there was feedback that we got from people saying that the ads are extremely intrusive, so we stopped and that wasn't a lot that we were earning from those Google ads  as well. [00:06:21] So we are solely focused on affiliate marketing right now. And all  income that we are earning, all of it almost a hundred percent is coming from affiliate marketing. [00:06:29]Naga S: [00:06:29] You guys all have your a hundred percent of your monthly income does through affiliate marketing. Okay. So let's take a few steps back.  Can you explain what is affiliate marketing and how is it different from the regular marketing and why should creators be interested to know about affiliate marketing? [00:06:46] R Dilip Kumar: [00:06:46] Affiliate marketing is basically, you're promoting somebody's product, there is , a manufacturer or a service provider who already have a product, and you are promoting that product to your audience in return for a commission that they are going to pay you [00:07:03] and affiliate marketing is a small pie from the overall revenue that these  e-commerce players are making, why is it that they're doing it because. No, it's a very easy advertising, medium for e-commerce companies. Now I'll take an example of Amazon, which is what we use mostly on the taste of India. [00:07:22]Now, Amazon has their own affiliate marketing program. Similarly in India, Flipkart has their own affiliate program and for Amazon and Flipkart, while they might be paying out a

Dive into how creators can curate and scale online communities as a key monetisation and engagement lever with Abhishek the chief curator of the Remote Indian Community. Abhishek is the creator of the RemoteIndian project - A vibrant community of more than 1400 members in India, some of whom are working at Doist, Gumroad, Gitlab, Prisma etc. This community enables Indian professionals to help each other navigate, balance and grow in a remote career.    Insights from the episode can be translated in context of a specific show, target audience and value to be provided.   The idea of normalising remote work in India came after Abhishek found a lot of joy working remotely as a Ruby on Rails developer in 2016. But he also realised that loneliness and lack of information is a big problem in remote work and he thought it would be more fun to solve these unique challenges as a group.   Reach out to Abhishek - Remote Indian - https://remoteindian.com/  e-mail - abhishek@remoteindian.com   Reach out to Naga –  Twitter - @n1n3stuff / @PassionPeop1 (https://twitter.com/ThePassionPeop1 ) Facebook - The Passion People Podcast email - naagasubramanya@gmail.com Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/thepassionpeoplepodcast/   More about EpLog Media - You can follow us and leave us feedback on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter @eplogmedia, For advertising/partnerships send you can send us an email at bonjour@eplog.media. If you like this show, please subscribe and leave us a review wherever you get your podcasts, so other people can find us. You can also find us on https://www.eplog.media/thepassionpeoplepodcast DISCLAIMER: The views expressed on all the shows produced and distributed by Ep.Log Media are personal to the host and the guest of the shows respectively and with no intention to harm the sentiments of any individual/organisation. The said content is not obscene or blasphemous or defamatory of any event and/or person deceased or alive or in contempt of court or breach of contract or breach of privilege, or in violation of any provisions of the statute, nor hurt the sentiments of any religious groups/ person/government/non-government authorities and/or breach or be against any declared public policy of any nation or state.   Sound Attribution and Credits - Music from Pipo and Wowa(you should check out their music on Spotify here - https://open.spotify.com/artist/6zZPxLiRfbGUnoEAJmfJJN) from Unminus. All music other than the jingle on the episode is under the CC0 License and downloaded from freesound.org , freemusicarchive.org and unminus.com   Transcript [00:00:00] Abhishek: [00:00:00] I was always curious about this question, that, okay what is a good life [00:00:04] the interesting part is now I actually feel heard and I feel understood. And that's the great part about, , building a community you're scratching your itch, but then you also realize there are so many other, , human needs, which are being fulfilled. [00:00:20] The biggest of which is, , being connected with each other [00:00:23] I wanted to. Take this microphone that I had, and  give it now to the community  you don't want to be a place where you're the only person holding the microphone. [00:00:32] I want to keep it as open and accessible  they might,   feel that social debt of sorts to support the community [00:00:38] Naga S: [00:00:38] H ey Abhishek hello and welcome to the passionate people podcast. [00:00:41]Abhishek: [00:00:41] Hey Naga, It's my pleasure to be here. [00:00:43]Naga S: [00:00:43] Abhishek in the current season. We're talking about creators and how they're monetizing in the context of COVID and in, in the spectrum of monetization. I believe that community creation is a very important aspect that a lot of creators either miss out on, or don't think about it in the right way. [00:01:00]The reason I'm excited to be talking to you is because you have successfully,  , conceptualized an idea for a community and scaled it to over a thousand members. So I'm really, really looking forward to our conversation. [00:01:13]Abhishek: [00:01:13] Thanks. Thanks for having me, man. [00:01:15] Naga S: [00:01:15] Super. So I think a good place to start would be just to give our listeners a background of who you are and also some background on remote Indian and we'll take it from there. [00:01:24] Abhishek: [00:01:24] I'm a computer science grad passed out in 2010 and started off working in an MNC.  This was quite a while back. [00:01:34]I knew that, , this was something which I was always curious about this question, that, okay what is a good life and somewhere,the feeling was that going to an office job and,  not having any say in where you could,  , work from. I, I felt that wasn't right. [00:01:54] And obviously I am a guy who likes to pursue my curiosities or [00:02:00] pursue my questions very seriously. So, that's how,  this whole journey started. It took awhile, but after three years, I really decided that I needed to shift paths, learn Ruby on rails, on my own followed a bunch of people on Twitter and. [00:02:16]Saw that, , they were   developers like me who were making remote , work for them. And I knew that this was something better than what I had   so that's how  I started off with my remote journey and in August, 2017, I was working out of a coworking space in a tropical Island called Colandra. [00:02:43] This is in Thailand. And I was,  feeling really blessed and this was not the first time that I had this overwhelming feeling of joy. I had,  , spent two years of working remote till then, but My fear was that this joy could be short-lived. I wanted to build some resilience into this, this joy. [00:03:04]So one example that I,  would like to give is what happens , if my client goes away or if I lose my job. when I used to speak to my friends their answers weren't, , very helpful. they would say that you could reach out to recruiters or you could,  , LinkedIn is a platform that you could use, but then I knew that, the journey that I was on, it would not work out for me. [00:03:28] And. That's where, , the idea of remote Indian started it was just a, way to build some resilience into this remote working career of sorts. And I thought that if I could be connected to folks who were working  in similar companies  that way,  if they had any open opportunity in the company, chances were that I could have, , first dibs on it. [00:03:51]So, yeah, but over the past three years of running the community,  I started this in August, 2017. So I've been doing this for [00:04:00] more than three years now.  The interesting part is now I actually feel heard and I feel understood. And that's the great part about, , building a community you're scratching your itch, but then you also realize there are so many other, , human needs, which are being fulfilled. [00:04:17] The biggest of which is, , being connected with each other.  That's pretty much, , my story now and we have grown to more than thousand members, obviously Covid had some role to play there. And as you can see, a lot of people have now started working remotely and let's see, I think I'm quite excited to see where, we can go with this [00:04:41]Naga S: [00:04:41] Are you also continuing your remote job currently or taking care of the community? a full-time gig? [00:04:47] Abhishek: [00:04:47] I was working till the end of last year.  I felt that. Remote Indian was something which could be my life's work. And I had  this financial runway of sorts. Like I had some savings, which I could, take a leap of faith here by,   trying to see if remote Indian can be sustainable and. [00:05:08]Yeah, I think this was the year where I, I hadn't planned that, things were like there would be a pandemic and all of these uncertainties would come about, but I'm happy to say that this has also been a great learning experience for me. Like just focusing only on one thing, which is remote Indian, I think helped me to clarify a lot of ideas. [00:05:31]Naga S: [00:05:31] You mentioned about having a financial runway that allowed you to take the jump. Can you elaborate a little bit in terms of how you thought about it? How long this runway span and why that linked gave you the comfort? [00:05:45]Abhishek: [00:05:45] Definitely. I am from a very   , normal family. [00:05:48] In my family, nobody understands what I do for a living. So in order to have that Let's say sanity, I would say like just having a a [00:06:00] safety net of sorts. [00:06:01] I think that gives you a lot of , confidence to teach, to do whatever you want to do. So I didn't want to,  I have that thought behind my head that, Hey, I'm actually, , I don't have money to pay my bills and things like that. So I had saved around one year of , my living expenses. [00:06:19] And that's, that's how I kind of reasoned about it. That if I can get to these nimble number, which was, , $500 MRR, I think that was my minimum viable income. So I thought if I could raise that number by the end of end of 2020, then. I can, look at doing this more seriously. Otherwise the idea was to go back to a remote job and do this as a side project of sorts. [00:06:46] [00:06:46]Naga S: [00:06:46] And are you close to that number right now? [00:06:50]Abhishek: [00:06:50] Yeah. I just crossed that number, 10 days back. So yeah, quite excited to finally it is that milestone and  it might seem like a very small number, but for, for me, who has been trying to figure this out and make this sustainable, I think this was a very big win for me. [00:07:10]Naga S: [00:07:10] , can you walk us through the process that you went about in terms of scaling remote Indian from. , from this, you essentially right to where it is today, how did you think about the values that the community stood for and what were some of your thoughts at the start and how, how are you thinking about the same thing? [00:07:30]Abhishek: [00:07:30] As I mentioned right at the start, it was just about. Building my own network of

How has podcasting changed during the pandemic? We talk to a panel of international guests Mo (More Sibyl Podcast), Olivier (Awaken the Awesome), Bettina (NRI Woman) to pick their brains about listenership, how to win a sponsor, imposter syndrome and reflections on 2020 for these stellar podcasters in light of Covid-19.   Reach out to Mo (More Sibyl Podcast) - Podcast - https://www.mosibyl.com/ IG - https://www.instagram.com/mosibyl/ e-mail - talktomo@mosibyl.com   Reach out to Olivier (Awaken the Awesome) - Podcast - https://awakentheawesome.podbean.com/ FB - https://www.facebook.com/awakentheawesome e-mail - awakentheawesome@gmail.com   Reach out to Bettina (NRI Woman) - Podcast - https://nriwoman.com/ Twitter - https://twitter.com/nri_woman e-mail - hello@nriwoman.com   Reach out to Naga –  Twitter - @n1n3stuff / @PassionPeop1 (https://twitter.com/ThePassionPeop1 ) Facebook - The Passion People Podcast email - naagasubramanya@gmail.com Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/thepassionpeoplepodcast/   More about EpLog Media - You can follow us and leave us feedback on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter @eplogmedia, For advertising/partnerships send you can send us an email at bonjour@eplog.media. If you like this show, please subscribe and leave us a review wherever you get your podcasts, so other people can find us. You can also find us on https://www.eplog.media/thepassionpeoplepodcast DISCLAIMER: The views expressed on all the shows produced and distributed by Ep.Log Media are personal to the host and the guest of the shows respectively and with no intention to harm the sentiments of any individual/organisation. The said content is not obscene or blasphemous or defamatory of any event and/or person deceased or alive or in contempt of court or breach of contract or breach of privilege, or in violation of any provisions of the statute, nor hurt the sentiments of any religious groups/ person/government/non-government authorities and/or breach or be against any declared public policy of any nation or state. Transcript [00:00:00] Olivier: [00:00:00] I think what worked for Joe Rogan is the community, not just from the fact that he brings a very, wide array of very interesting guests his approach, but what he really bank for him is a community.  So Spotify recognize that, and there's a huge potential, a huge community that came with that. And also the numbers showed it on YouTube. So I think the community is a very, is a very big aspect of it. [00:00:19] Bettina T: [00:00:19] So what are my options? Is it sponsorship? Is it going to be you know, selling merchandise? Is it going to get consulting gigs? Is it about creating a new product? It's exclusively with my audience. Is it about creating a product with a sponsor that then fits with my audience? So there are so many different avenues that one can consider. [00:00:36]And by sponsoring the podcast, they are reaching out to those women in a way that would be much more cost effective versus just advertising on say Facebook or Instagram or whatever.  So I think because of that you know, that niche definition of our audience there is an alignment for certain sponsors who are keen to come on the show. [00:00:55] Mo: [00:00:55] It took me while can I get comfortable with asking people to chip into my passion [00:01:00] project? Because I felt that when I started, I wasn't putting a lot of effort into it and I felt like a, almost like a fraud asking them to put money [00:01:08]Naga S: [00:01:08] hey everyone. Hello and welcome to a very, very special episode of the passionate people podcast. Today, we have Olivia Mo and Betina who are all fellow podcasters, and we're going to discuss about how podcasting has changed for them over the last eight to 10 months  because of COVID and what they're doing in terms of their monetization efforts. [00:01:32]Let me again, take a moment to thank you for taking the time out. And I'm just so excited and so pumped to be having this conversation because we've all been part of our community of podcasters, and I'm really excited to know how things have been for you guys. So my first question at the start is that how has your listener numbers changed over the last eight to 10 months? [00:01:56] And have you. Been running the show continuously, or [00:02:00] are you on a season break. [00:02:01]Mo: [00:02:01] So my show usually takes a hiatus between December and April, and it was kind of a good opportunity for me to at least at least take that break without having to worry about putting my show on another break because of the virus. And so when April came around, I started really slow. [00:02:19] Did something on mental health? Check-in I didn't want to get people on zoom and do like a live show cause everybody was doing live shows then. So, no, I haven't taken a break as far as listenership. Well, the numbers are in so good. Cause I use anchor, which is also another thing we can talk about. It's not really great for like tracking a lot of stuff, but I think that qualitatively, the engagement has been good. [00:02:39] I felt like I made more deeper connections with, some of my top listeners this year. Which is always very important to me. I don't get too bogged down about, you know, how many thousand downloads you have or things like that, because anybody can just download. But I did listen in, I didn't engage in. [00:02:53] So how I measure engagement is, you know, people commenting or sending me emails or letting me know, what they liked about a [00:03:00] particular episode or what they didn't like and things like that. So in that regard, I would say that my show has been fairly, quite successful this year, despite COVID. [00:03:08]Bettina T: [00:03:08] Just going to say that it was a little bit different for us because we usually work in seasons. And so typically we do a run from March to June, July, and then another one from September to December. But this time when we were supposed to come out with our episodes in March and COVID happened entire production was delayed because for us, we produced,  it works quite well when the children are in school and that, you know, you get that little window because our podcast is slightly different. [00:03:34] It's like a produced narrative style podcast. So it requires a decent amount of work. And when COVID happened and it started homeschooling and stuff, the entire production thing got shifted. So we actually launched our podcast, I think in October, instead of in sort of March, as, as we had planned initially the numbers definitely we saw a drop because we not consistent, but. [00:03:58]In the period that [00:04:00] we were consistent the numbers are constantly rising. But the interesting thing is that too loud, the COVID period, despite not having you know, released any new episodes, we still have people come back and listen. We had new listeners coming across from different parts of the world. [00:04:13] So we don't use anchor. We use a different podcast platform to host a podcast and we can actually track and see how many listens have come, how much they've listened, how much of the episode they've listened. And it's quite interesting. So it's roughly around 20 minutes. We usually get about 80% of listenership of the entire episode. [00:04:34]Naga S: [00:04:34] That's industry like top of the industry, [00:04:38] Bettina T: [00:04:38] is it?  It's probably because you know, it's, firstly it's produced. Secondly, it's just, it's like 20 minutes. So it's not 25 minutes. Just the whole episode is that much. And the last sort of three or four minutes, it's like the outro, which is, you know, the next episode and you know, thanking the team and those kinds of things. [00:04:56] So, yeah. So pretty much. So we have a decent listenership. Yeah. [00:05:00] [00:05:00] Naga S: [00:05:00] That's great. What about you, Olivier [00:05:02] Olivier: [00:05:02] for me, actually, I have to say COVID was actually kind of interesting for me. It was actually a great opportunity because I don't run seasons. I basically, I'm kind of a guerrilla style. I try to run it through like, as on a weekly basis, I do a self-imposed break in the summer because you know, running a full-time job, a wife and two kids, I make this podcast happen. [00:05:23] However I can. So, but I do have a very solid production calendar, but when COVID happens, Then I actually doubled down. Because I basically understood if I'm stuck at home, guests are stuck at home. So that opens up your calendar pretty much. Cause everybody had cancellations, people who had bookings and speaking engagement stuff, all that got canceled. [00:05:40] So they're stuck at home. So that's where I doubled down and I pitched, I pitched like, Hey, can you record?  So in terms of booking guests, that was really helpful helped me out throughout the year in terms of listenership. It actually, I actually did notice a a slow uphill curve. [00:05:54] Why? Because. I'm not sure if you guys noticed there's an explosion of podcast is going out right now. So a lot of people are [00:06:00] taking this time off to do a little bit, little bit more listening. And I've noticed people not only coming back for new episodes, but going back to old episodes as well. [00:06:08] So compared to the same period last year we've seen the podcast grow about a good 20% and listenership. So that's a, that's a really good thing. I'm really proud of that. [00:06:17]Naga S: [00:06:17] That's awesome. And I think that's the beauty of  making content that spans across the season, not to have like a bunch of content, right. [00:06:24] Because once they discover you, they come back and listen to the entire catalog. If that's something that that's interesting. Right. And especially, you know, for the kind of shows that, that we all have. And I'm sure that this is a behavior that we'll see more and more as more people discover podcasts. [00:06:40]Mo: [00:06:40] Definitely. I agree. [00:06:42]Naga S:

In conversation with Pete who is Founder and CEO of Ampjar, a karmic advertising community that helps small brands to acquire customers through a fast and simple exchange of shout outs. We discuss the evolution of marketing, the similarities of SMB Online Retail and the Creator Economy and what creators can do today to amplify their reach and genuinely reach out to their target audience in a way that reflects their personal brand.   Prior to running Ampjar, Pete ran a social and digital media agency which worked with household name brands in 6 countries. Pete sold the business to Private Equity in 2017.   Reach out to Peter - LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/peterjamesdavis/ AmpJar - ampjar.com/lets-grow e-mail - pete@ampjar.com Reach out to Naga –  Twitter - @n1n3stuff / @PassionPeop1 (https://twitter.com/ThePassionPeop1 ) Facebook - The Passion People Podcast email - naagasubramanya@gmail.com Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/thepassionpeoplepodcast/   More about EpLog Media - You can follow us and leave us feedback on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter @eplogmedia, For advertising/partnerships send you can send us an email at bonjour@eplog.media. If you like this show, please subscribe and leave us a review wherever you get your podcasts, so other people can find us. You can also find us on https://www.eplog.media/thepassionpeoplepodcast DISCLAIMER: The views expressed on all the shows produced and distributed by Ep.Log Media are personal to the host and the guest of the shows respectively and with no intention to harm the sentiments of any individual/organisation. The said content is not obscene or blasphemous or defamatory of any event and/or person deceased or alive or in contempt of court or breach of contract or breach of privilege, or in violation of any provisions of the statute, nor hurt the sentiments of any religious groups/ person/government/non-government authorities and/or breach or be against any declared public policy of any nation or state. Transcript [00:00:00] Pete: [00:00:00] these small businesses have all these platforms that they're meant to be using like Facebook advertising, like SEO, like Google advertising. [00:00:10] And they just don't have the bandwidth to learn how to, how to use it  because they just have so many other things that they're doing in their business. [00:00:17]But the way that we see it is that this is a movement in our minds towards giving the control back to the brands. So giving them more autonomy to control how they advertise, because essentially what we're trying to do is create a third model [00:00:33]. So I'm the founder and CEO of a company called amp jar. I'm actually based down in Melbourne Australia right now. So we're actually a us company, but I live down here. It's home. So it's a good place to kind of shelter while all this COVID things going on. And yeah, Ampjar is a community of brands that shout each other out through various channels to help each other grow. [00:00:56] So we have hundreds of brands all over the U S [00:01:00] Canada, Australia. New Zealand is our focus markets at the moment. Yeah, they shout each other out through social or emails or  post  checkout on their website. And the whole intent of it really is these small brands have incredible relationships with their customers relationships that are just stronger than I've ever seen anywhere before in marketing. [00:01:19] And what we're trying to do is help these brands. Team up work together so that customer acquisition is something that they can do together rather than having to go to platforms like Facebook or Google to get that amplification and to meet new customers. [00:01:32]Naga S: [00:01:32] And ideally what is the size of these businesses and what, what are they into. [00:01:36] Pete: [00:01:36] Yeah. So typically the main type of customer for us is a smaller business. So someone who maybe has. Four five, six employees is kind of core to us. And sometimes we have people who are just on their own. Sometimes we have people who have 20 employees, but maybe core is that small team with a handful of people. [00:01:55]And more often than not, they are what we call [00:02:00] independent retail. So someone who has a product. They're not dropshippers, you know, they, they have their own product. They have their own social channels. They sell a product through a website, like a Shopify style website they're really authentic businesses. [00:02:14] Naga S: [00:02:14] Got it. And what, what would drive the decision of these businesses to you know, choose to come to Ampjar as against traditional modes of marketing? [00:02:23] Pete: [00:02:23] Yeah, absolutely. So my background was, was marketing. So I, before doing this, I ran a marketing agency. So we run it down here in Melbourne. We built it to having 20 staff and we worked in six countries , we worked with some incredible brands  I would say that there was a time in there where I was the expert. [00:02:41] I was the go-to. If you wanted to know anything about Facebook ads or Google ads or how to use this channel or that channel, I was the go-to come to me and talk to me about it. And then as you know, when you build a business, you grow it over time and you get to a point where you do more of the management, less of the hands-on dirty work. [00:02:59] And [00:03:00] it quickly became a fact that I didn't. Have the expertise, I wasn't the go-to on these things. And so what we found was that I would then go back to check out how Facebook works. So like Facebook advertising and the whole thing completely changed. And so that's a really good example of how. These small businesses have all these platforms that they're meant to be using like Facebook advertising, like SEO, like Google advertising. [00:03:29] And they just don't have the bandwidth to learn how to, how to use it and to then stay abreast of it because they just have so many other things that they're doing in their business. So typically people have tried those platforms. Maybe they've tried working with influences and had a bit of hit or miss over there. [00:03:44] Maybe they've tried. Partnerships of some extent to some, some degree, but what Ampjar does is it provides a really simple way for them to leverage the audiences that they've built, but also the skills that they have as people and knowing what they're really good [00:04:00] at, which is having a really good, genuine conversation with their own customers. [00:04:03] So it feels like a really natural place for someone to go when they have maybe tried. All of the, all of the above obvious places to start. Now we present an opportunity which is perfect for them because it doesn't have a steep learning curve. It's really natural to the way that they are spending their time, running their business and communicating anyway. [00:04:22] Naga S: [00:04:22] I can relate to the fatigue factor that you are to where you know, as small businesses you're. Need to keep up with so many things that keep changing on a constant basis. Right. And especially like last platform that Google and Facebook, it's not really feasible for them to do that. [00:04:37]What's the duration of the learning curve for Amtrak and what's the difference in the customer acquisition costs that these businesses typically see on your platform? [00:04:45]Pete: [00:04:45] For us where you don't think we have much of a learning curve, so the way that we see it is essentially what we're saying to them is when you land in the platform, here's a bunch of other brands that you can shout out. So go and choose someone to  share through your [00:05:00] channels. [00:05:00] And then what they'll do is they'll just. Pick someone out that they'd like to look over and they'll say, wow, I'd never knew that this company existed in here or Hey, check out this brand founded by this brilliant person in Nebraska or wow. Check out this beautiful imagery over here. And so they'll do something like that. [00:05:16] Something that's really nice and natural. And so they're doing that anyways. So they're already used to doing that and having that as part of the process. And then the way that Ampjar works is that when you do that, when you shout someone else out, You earn what we call karma credits. So it's like our internal currency of Karma or Goodwill. [00:05:34] So I've shouted someone else out. I then earned credits for shouting them out. And then as soon as you've got credits, other people can start shouting you out. So you might find that it takes a couple of hours. You might, it might take a day, but someone else is there. And so you shout someone out and bang someone else shouts you own return. [00:05:51] You shout someone out. Someone else who helps you out in return? So it's not necessarily one-to-one is not a shout out brand. A brand day. Shouts. We back [00:06:00] in return is more like I shout out brand a and then brand J comes on and shouts me out. And then brand F shouts me out as well, because they were both a bit smaller. [00:06:08] So it's yeah, it's nice and flexible in that way. [00:06:12]Naga S: [00:06:12] So essentially, what, what your aha moment I guess, would be here is that a lot of content creators typically start off this way, right? They start off by being on shows are on you know, on the podcast. Folks who are similar to them, or even a little bit more popular than them. And they try to get a little bit of the other podcast or the other content creators audience back to that platform. [00:06:39] So is that what you're trying to get at with, with this. [00:06:42] Pete: [00:06:42] Yeah, I think that there's a, there's definitely like a, an element of that. So we've taken that that sort of model and applied it into consumer brands, applied it into saying. Like one brand can shout out another brand. And the Goodwill that they have with their customers is [00:07:00] something that they can leverage to then reach more customers in another way. [00:07:

In the second conversation with Sharique Shamsudheen, a personal finance and business YouTuber with over 500k subscribers. Sharique is also a serial entrepreneur and in this episode we talk about creating revenue streams outside of youtube by leveraging and creating your community.   Reach out to Sharique - YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/ShariqueSamsudheen Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/sharique.samsudheen/?hl=en Website - https://marketfeed.news/   Reach out to Naga –  Twitter - @n1n3stuff / @PassionPeop1 (https://twitter.com/ThePassionPeop1 ) Facebook - The Passion People Podcast Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/thepassionpeoplepodcast/?hl=en   More about EpLog Media - You can follow us and leave us feedback on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter @eplogmedia, For advertising/partnerships send you can send us an email at bonjour@eplog.media. If you like this show, please subscribe and leave us a review wherever you get your podcasts, so other people can find us. You can also find us on https://www.eplog.media/thepassionpeoplepodcast DISCLAIMER: The views expressed on all the shows produced and distributed by Ep.Log Media are personal to the host and the guest of the shows respectively and with no intention to harm the sentiments of any individual/organization. The said content is not obscene or blasphemous or defamatory of any event and/or person deceased or alive or in contempt of court or breach of contract or breach of privilege, or in violation of any provisions of the statute, nor hurt the sentiments of any religious groups/ person/government/non-government authorities and/or breach or be against any declared public policy of any nation or state.   Sound Attribution and Credits - Music from Pipo and Wowa(you should check out their music on Spotify here - https://open.spotify.com/artist/6zZPxLiRfbGUnoEAJmfJJN) from Unminus. All music other than the jingle on the episode is under the CC0 License and downloaded from freesound.org , freemusicarchive.org and unminus.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

In conversation with Sharique Shamsudheen, a personal finance and business YouTuber with over 500k subscribers. Sharique is also a serial entrepreneur and in this episode we talk about the 3 pillars of content creation and how to find success on YouTube. Book Suggestion - Rich Dad Poor Dad, Sapiens Reach out to Sharique - YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/ShariqueSamsudheenInstagram - https://www.instagram.com/sharique.samsudheen/?hl=en Reach out to Naga –  Twitter - @n1n3stuff / @PassionPeop1 (https://twitter.com/ThePassionPeop1 ) Facebook - The Passion People Podcast Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/thepassionpeoplepodcast/?hl=en   More about EpLog Media - You can follow us and leave us feedback on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter @eplogmedia, For advertising/partnerships send you can send us an email at bonjour@eplog.media. If you like this show, please subscribe and leave us a review wherever you get your podcasts, so other people can find us. You can also find us on https://www.eplog.media/thepassionpeoplepodcast DISCLAIMER: The views expressed on all the shows produced and distributed by Ep.Log Media are personal to the host and the guest of the shows respectively and with no intention to harm the sentiments of any individual/organization. The said content is not obscene or blasphemous or defamatory of any event and/or person deceased or alive or in contempt of court or breach of contract or breach of privilege, or in violation of any provisions of the statute, nor hurt the sentiments of any religious groups/ person/government/non-government authorities and/or breach or be against any declared public policy of any nation or state.   Sound Attribution and Credits - Music from Pipo and Wowa(you should check out their music on Spotify here - https://open.spotify.com/artist/6zZPxLiRfbGUnoEAJmfJJN) from Unminus. All music other than the jingle on the episode is under the CC0 License and downloaded from freesound.org , freemusicarchive.org and unminus.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

In conversation with Omkar Diwekar a cinematographer and national award-winning film, Unreserved. Don't know what a cinematographer does? This is a continuing dialogue on the different folks involved in the video creation, editing, and distribution process. [00:00:00]Naga S: [00:00:00] Thank you so much for taking time to be on the podcast. [00:00:04] Omkar: [00:00:04] Thank you. Thank you so much.   [00:00:05]Naga S: [00:00:05] A good place to start would be to tell us what your passion is and how you're making it manifest.   [00:00:13]Omkar: [00:00:13] I'm a cinematographer. I work, in Bombay as a freelance cinematographer. I, Majorly love to shoot, nonfiction, the documentary films, but has documentaries. Don't provide a lot of, financial help, in India, especially I, I do, sort of like digital commercials and short films, and I do aspire to, get into fiction filmmaking as well.   [00:00:37]that is also a long-term target.   [00:00:41] Naga S: [00:00:41] Got it. So how is, so there, there are all these terms, right? Like there's a director, there's a producer, there's a cinematographer. So what, what do all these different people do? And, in that, what, what do you specifically do?   [00:00:53] Omkar: [00:00:53] Okay. So I am a cinematographer. So my department is, camera, lighting, [00:01:00] collaborating with the director, before we go on the shoot. my job is to collaborate with the director and, sort of, combine his vision with the technical, know-how that is needed because filmmaking is ultimately, it's an art, but it's a scientific art. [00:01:16]there's a lot of, science that goes behind, how you capture the images, how you record the sound. So, it's filmmaking in itself is a collaboration of various kinds of people who are, who specialize in various different departures. So, Peter, who has a vision for that particular story? He has, he has seen the film already in his head even before, he sets foot on the stage on the, on the set. [00:01:44] So it's the cinematographer's job to really, understand his vision, how he sees the film, and try to get it, on camera. So that's, that's predominantly the job.   [00:01:57]Naga S: [00:01:57] Got it. the shift from [00:02:00] engineering to, you know, something on the creative lens must be, must be a big one. So what, what inspired you, or what pushed you to make that shift happen?   [00:02:08]Omkar: [00:02:08] okay. So, let me go back B before, engineering to answer your question. So as a child, actually my father used to, so are you, you remember how on-duty version? every Friday and Saturday and Sunday, they would be filmed in the evening. So, so my father and he used to be home, on, on the weekends, he would, Said set me down, before the film would start and he's a huge fan.   [00:02:35] So, and every time there would be a film playing, he would sit me down like an half an hour before the film would start. And he would, you know, very, enthusiastically, he would explain, he would tell me this is going to happen in this film. This film is about that. And he's going to do this. He's going to do that.   [00:02:55] And it used to be very exciting for me because. my father is in general, a [00:03:00] very shy person. So, he was, he's very reserved kind of a person. So this was like a , rare, chance for me to, you know, have some kind of a bond with him. And that's how, this fascination for films really grew for me from my childhood , I used to watch a lot of films as a kid, when I was in my junior college, I used to bunk college and go watch films, at the theater.   [00:03:26] And, and then, when I was in engineering college, what happened actually was like, unfortunately, in the first year of my engineering college, I had an accident and, my leg was like burned from a side and I underwent an operation and. Because of that. I had to sit out a year, the, my first year of engineering.   [00:03:47] I [00:03:47] Naga S: [00:03:47] Oh, [00:03:48] Omkar: [00:03:48] I could not. Yeah, I could not give my, second semester exams. It's like the accident happened just a day before, my maths exam on of the second   [00:03:57] Naga S: [00:03:57] wow. Almost seems like it's on [00:04:00] purpose.   [00:04:00] Omkar: [00:04:00] Yeah, you could say, so like in hindsight, I'm happy about it, but yeah, so I had to sit out there exams and, and so I had one year of nothing that's and, I was pretty clueless.   [00:04:13] I mean, first year you have no idea what to do in life., I was just home jobless and, this friend of mine from college, he, one day he would, he just came up to me and he said, why don't you join the theater circle of the college? And, you know, instead of doing that thing, you could just watch films, like, read books or something like that.   [00:04:37] So that kind of, just gave me something to do. So pony has a lot of, theater culture, especially into college competitions. So I did that. And while doing that, I got in touch with some people from FTI. And then I got to know about the pony international film festival.   [00:04:57] So that kind of set me off on [00:05:00] that path, where I started watching a lot of cinema. I made some friends at FTI. I started assisting them on their projects at FDI, all this while being pretty absent, in college. like by the end of my, by the end of final year of engineering, I was pretty much clueless as to what I want to do.   [00:05:19] I just knew that I didn't want to do anything related to engineering. I had, certain other options, but, So like, around the end of the final year of engineering, I sort of knew that I wanted to pursue filmmaking. then I didn't know what exactly I wanted to do in filmmaking. Like there are different avenues.   [00:05:39], I, for sure I knew that, direction is not for me or acting is not for me. I knew that because.   [00:05:46] Naga S: [00:05:46] If I can [00:05:47] Omkar: [00:05:47] Yeah, because see, acting is something that is, it requires a lot out of you. You need to really put yourself out there for the world to see. Right. , I'm a pretty reserved kind of a person.   [00:05:57] I like to be in the background. I [00:06:00] like to be a little bit low profile, you know? So, and again, direction is sort of the same in a different way, because again, everybody's looking at you and everybody, you are answerable to a lot of people, and again, you are also, managing a lot of people, you're managing all the departments and it's a very responsible kind of a job.   [00:06:23]so I sort of knew that I don't want to go there, but I want to be involved in filmmaking, but I also want to, do something that really, is important. To do the basic basics of filmmaking. So I thought of editing and cinematography. and then when I was assisting people at FTI that sort of, gave me a lot of, understanding and learning.   [00:06:46] As to, what each department means. I literally, after I completed engineering, some projects, I, that I assisted at FTI, I was literally just like a production assistant. and my jobs were job would be simply [00:07:00] to, get the food from place to place, be to all the group. So that's literally where I started from and doing all of that really gave me an understanding of each and every department, what each and every person is supposed to do.   [00:07:13] And it also taught me like FKA. The environment is so good. FDA usually gets a very bad name, but the one thing that it really taught me there that, every student over there really values each and every person's job, like even, taking that food from place to place B, was an important job and they understood the value of it. [00:07:35] So, but while doing that I understood what, his department, does, to achieve that final goal of the final film. And, so I sort of, gravitated towards the camera. And then, the I, a couple of projects I assisted, the cinematographers over there. And then in 2013, I attempted the FDA entrance exam.   [00:07:59]until then [00:08:00] I did not have a camera or anything as such. And, and still, I got through for the, interviews of both, TV, cinematography course and film, cinematography course at FDA. And that's when my parents were suddenly like, okay, he has potential. He's not just wasting his years. And that's when I got my first camera.   [00:08:21]I got selected for the TV course that year, but it's a one-year course. And I was like, I thought, I'll wait it out. And I'll try again next year. so I didn't take up admission in 2013. And in 2014, they did not have admissions because they had to clear out the 2008 batch, which was still not cleared up.   [00:08:41] So, unfortunately I could not get into FDI and, but then 2014, I shifted to Bombay because by then it was like, I have to do something. I can't just sit at home and not do anything. So my family was pretty concerned because I was, [00:09:00] it was really not doing anything. till the summer of 2014, it was just, watching films, going to FTI, watching films over there and just yeah, 2012.   [00:09:12] Naga S: [00:09:12] Okay. [00:09:12]Omkar: [00:09:12] for two years, I was not doing anything that just watching films was all that I was doing. I was literally watching like at least two films every day. and, so then 2014, one of my friends who's now a pretty well established DOP. his name is . he, suggested to me that, you should go to Xavier's Institute of communications in Bombay.   [00:09:33]which is like a one-year, filmmaking course, in Vegas. Cynthia has called his mom. So, and, and he said that it would be good for you. You will get some kind of exposure for, the, how the industry works in Bombay, how people function in Bombay, how Bombay as a city itself is. And, maybe after doing that one year, cause you can come back for FTI.   [00:09:53] You will have already have established some contacts over there. It will help you. And I kind of just thought it's [00:10:00] good to do good advice. So I went for it. I gave the entrance and I got select

For this episode, Naga is in conversation with Jane Carter a business coach with a special focus on the obstacles in monetizing a business, the narrative in our head that holds us back and how this applies to creators / passionprenuers in the Creator Economy and how they can re-draft that narrative.   Creator Tools - Mastermind Group - Find your nearest mastermind group here - https://www.meetup.com/topics/masterminds/    Reach out to Jane Carter - www.janecartercoaching.com   Reach out to Naga –  Twitter - @n1n3stuff / @PassionPeop1 (https://twitter.com/ThePassionPeop1 )   Facebook - The Passion People Podcast   You can follow us and leave us feedback on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter @eplogmedia, For advertising/partnerships send you can send us an email at bonjour@eplog.media. If you like this show, please subscribe and leave us a review wherever you get your podcasts, so other people can find us. You can also find us on https://www.eplog.media/thepassionpeoplepodcast DISCLAIMER: The views expressed on all the shows produced and distributed by Ep.Log Media are personal to the host and the guest of the shows respectively and with no intention to harm the sentiments of any individual/organization. The said content is not obscene or blasphemous or defamatory of any event and/or person deceased or alive or in contempt of court or breach of contract or breach of privilege, or in violation of any provisions of the statute, nor hurt the sentiments of any religious groups/ person/government/non-government authorities and/or breach or be against any declared public policy of any nation or state.   Sound Attribution and Credits - Music from Pipo and Wowa(you should check out their music on Spotify here - https://open.spotify.com/artist/6zZPxLiRfbGUnoEAJmfJJN) from Unminus. All music other than the jingle on the episode is under the CC0 License and downloaded from freesound.org , freemusicarchive.org and unminus.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

To kick off Season 3, Allison Dillard who used to be an adjunct professor of mathematics talk to Naga on her journey to be an independent online creator and solopreneur. Creator Tools - Kajabi - For the people who are wondering, Allison runs her entire online course on Kajabi. If you are interested to know more about Kajabi, you should check out Li Jin’s Substack - https://li.substack.com/p/interview-with-kajabis-cpo-the-secret Book References -  Crush Math Now by Allison Dillard Raise your Math Grade by Allison Dillard   Reach out to Allison - https://allisonlovesmath.mykajabi.com/   Reach out to Naga –  Twitter - @n1n3stuff / @PassionPeop1 (https://twitter.com/ThePassionPeop1 )Facebook - The Passion People Podcast You can follow us and leave us feedback on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter @eplogmedia, For advertising/partnerships send you can send us an email at bonjour@eplog.media. If you like this show, please subscribe and leave us a review wherever you get your podcasts, so other people can find us. You can also find us on https://www.eplog.media/thepassionpeoplepodcast DISCLAIMER: The views expressed on all the shows produced and distributed by Ep.Log Media are personal to the host and the guest of the shows respectively and with no intention to harm the sentiments of any individual/organization. The said content is not obscene or blasphemous or defamatory of any event and/or person deceased or alive or in contempt of court or breach of contract or breach of privilege, or in violation of any provisions of the statute, nor hurt the sentiments of any religious groups/ person/government/non-government authorities and/or breach or be against any declared public policy of any nation or state.   Sound Attribution and Credits - Music from Pipo and Wowa(you should check out their music on Spotify here - https://open.spotify.com/artist/6zZPxLiRfbGUnoEAJmfJJN) from Unminus. All music other than the jingle on the episode is under the CC0 License and downloaded from freesound.org , freemusicarchive.org and unminus.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

For Season 3 of the Passion People Podcast, we will focus on working closely with our new partners at Ep Log Media to bring you more of what you love.After talking to people about their journey till now, it is now time to focus on the money and monetization. This season will focus heavily on the evolution of the creator economy both in India and around the world. Stay tuned for new episodes every month.  Follow The Passion People Podcast on TwitterYou can follow us and leave us feedback on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter @eplogmedia, For advertising/partnerships send you can send us an email at bonjour@eplog.media. If you like this show, please subscribe and leave us a review wherever you get your podcasts, so other people can find us. You can also find us on https://www.eplog.media/thepassionpeoplepodcast DISCLAIMER: The views expressed on all the shows produced and distributed by Ep.Log Media are personal to the host and the guest of the shows respectively and with no intention to harm the sentiments of any individual/organization.The said content is not obscene or blasphemous or defamatory of any event and/or person deceased or alive or in contempt of court or breach of contract or breach of privilege, or in violation of any provisions of the statute, nor hurt the sentiments of any religious groups/ person/government/non-government authorities and/or breach or be against any declared public policy of any nation or state.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Who am I and how do I get what I want?Getting through a divorce and healing?Job Hunting during Covid-19 and a personal set of criteria for job qualification. Do you know what is important in your life? Only then can you figure out how to get it. Among the important things in life - rate and rank items by priority to then find out what are non-negotiable and what are things that are nice to have. T-Shaped Knowledge where you learn as much as you need to about adjacent areas and dive deep into one area. As someone grows professionally, the T eventually becomes a W based on the kind of career decisions that are taken. Re-invent yourself and get used to the process.  Book References - 18 Steps to own your life Uncoupling - How to survive and thrive after a divorce or a break-upThe Artists Way - Morning PagesWords to live by - (edit for yourself :) ) I will build useful thoughtful and meaningful products;I will strive to be recognised as a good engineer with great attention to detail;I will give and get more love and care in my life. Reach out to Vishnu - Twitter - https://twitter.com/vishnugopalWebsite - https://vishnugopal.com/Reach out to Naga –  Twitter - @n1n3stuff / @PassionPeop1 (https://twitter.com/ThePassionPeop1 ) You can follow us and leave us feedback on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter @eplogmedia, For advertising/partnerships send you can send us an email at bonjour@eplog.media. If you like this show, please subscribe and leave us a review wherever you get your podcasts, so other people can find us. You can also find us on https://www.eplog.media/thepassionpeoplepodcast DISCLAIMER: The views expressed on all the shows produced and distributed by Ep.Log Media are personal to the host and the guest of the shows respectively and with no intention to harm the sentiments of any individual/organization.The said content is not obscene or blasphemous or defamatory of any event and/or person deceased or alive or in contempt of court or breach of contract or breach of privilege, or in violation of any provisions of the statute, nor hurt the sentiments of any religious groups/ person/government/non-government authorities and/or breach or be against any declared public policy of any nation or state. Sound Attribution and Credits - Music from Pipo and Wowa(you should check out thier music on Spotify here - https://open.spotify.com/artist/6zZPxLiRfbGUnoEAJmfJJN) from Unminus.All music other than the jingle on the episode is under the CC0 License and downloaded from freesound.org , freemusicarchive.org and unminus.com  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Actor | Writer | Model | EntertainerVasundhara wears many hats, the most significant of them is that of an actor. She has acted in over 13 Tamil Films with a couple more on the way. Her film Thenmerku Partuvakatru won about 7 national awards. A more recent film Bakrid is doing the rounds in the film festival scene and has won, as of now, the Chennai International Film Award. The film is on Prime. Phenomenon - Podcast - https://www.phenomenonpod.com/Reach out to Vasundhara on Instagram at https://www.instagram.com/ivasuuu/ Follow The Passion People Podcast on TwitterYou can follow us and leave us feedback on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter @eplogmedia, For advertising/partnerships send you can send us an email at bonjour@eplog.media. If you like this show, please subscribe and leave us a review wherever you get your podcasts, so other people can find us. You can also find us on https://www.eplog.media/thepassionpeoplepodcast DISCLAIMER: The views expressed on all the shows produced and distributed by Ep.Log Media are personal to the host and the guest of the shows respectively and with no intention to harm the sentiments of any individual/organization.The said content is not obscene or blasphemous or defamatory of any event and/or person deceased or alive or in contempt of court or breach of contract or breach of privilege, or in violation of any provisions of the statute, nor hurt the sentiments of any religious groups/ person/government/non-government authorities and/or breach or be against any declared public policy of any nation or state. Sound Attribution and Credits - Music from Pipo and Wowa(you should check out thier music on Spotify here - https://open.spotify.com/artist/6zZPxLiRfbGUnoEAJmfJJN) from Unminus.All music other than the jingle on the episode is under the CC0 License and downloaded from freesound.org , freemusicarchive.org and unminus.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Designer | Entrepreneur | Multi-Potentialite Geetika is a designer and founder/ CEO of Vacation With An Artist (VAWAA), a global platform to book creative vacations with remarkable artists and makers around the world where you can spend one-on-one, in-person time diving into a skill. From bamboo bicycle making in India and shoemaking in Czechia to natural textile dyeing in Vietnam, VAWAA is dedicated to promoting and preserving global arts and crafts and creating a new way to travel.Reach out to Geetika – Website and Social - www.vawaa.com || Facebook || Instagram || Twitter Book your online Vawaa Now - https://vawaa.com/online Reach out to Naga –  Twitter - @n1n3stuff / @PassionPeop1 (https://twitter.com/ThePassionPeop1 ) You can follow us and leave us feedback on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter @eplogmedia, For advertising/partnerships send you can send us an email at bonjour@eplog.media. If you like this show, please subscribe and leave us a review wherever you get your podcasts, so other people can find us. You can also find us on https://www.eplog.media/thepassionpeoplepodcast DISCLAIMER: The views expressed on all the shows produced and distributed by Ep.Log Media are personal to the host and the guest of the shows respectively and with no intention to harm the sentiments of any individual/organization.The said content is not obscene or blasphemous or defamatory of any event and/or person deceased or alive or in contempt of court or breach of contract or breach of privilege, or in violation of any provisions of the statute, nor hurt the sentiments of any religious groups/ person/government/non-government authorities and/or breach or be against any declared public policy of any nation or state. Sound Attribution and Credits - Music from Pipo and Wowa(you should check out thier music on Spotify here - https://open.spotify.com/artist/6zZPxLiRfbGUnoEAJmfJJN) from Unminus.All music other than the jingle on the episode is under the CC0 License and downloaded from freesound.org , freemusicarchive.org and unminus.com See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Only 27 years old, former financial advisor Rachel Richards has made a name for herself in the personal finance realm. In 2019, Rachel quit her job and retired, with over $10,000 per month in passive income! She is the bestselling author of “Money Honey” and “Passive Income, Aggressive Retirement.” She has been featured on the Penny Hoarder and the New York Times and has been contracted to speak at colleges. Rachel is also a real estate investor with 35 rental units. Her valuable money lessons have helped thousands of millennials work their way out of financial despair. She has successfully done what no one has done before: made the topic of money management fun, entertaining, and simple!Disclaimer - A lot of the ideas given in the book are from the US perspective since Rachel is based there. However, 90% of the ideas she talks about can directly translate to something in India as well. Always interested in Finance, got excited about compound interest in 6th grade!So many resources available for people to know about money (books, blogs and podcasts) and knowledge gaps still existed. To bridge the gap, Rachel wrote a her first book (Money Honey - A simple 7 Step Guide to get your financial shit together) to help individuals get to grips with an intimidating topic. Step 1 - Change your narrative and relationship with money. Start appreciating what all money has given you and start with affirmations that you have enough money and that money is abundant. Step 2 - Make a budget to get a sense of your current financial situation and figure out where to cut back. Cutting expenses is great. Now, it is time to figure out what can be done to increase your income. "There is no cap on how much income you can make in a year". To make a real impact on your budget, focus on both. Decreasing expenses and increasing income. Step 3 - Differentiate what kind of income to generate. Passive Income or Active Income. Active Income - Trade your time for money. Passive Income - Invest a bunch of time at once and little to nothing thereafter. What are the different passive income streams -a. Rental Incomeb. Portfolio Income - Dividend. (Large pool of money required)c. Royalty Income - Books, Online Courses, Songs, Podcastsd. Coin Operated Machines – Vending Machines, Food Dispensers, Laundramats (US Specific)e. E-Commerce - Blog, Podcast, Substack (How can I outsource), Ad-Money, Affiliate Marketing and Drop Shipping. How to make an investment in Real Estate without a large downpayment?a. Invest in a REit. (Real Estate Investment Trust), to get the exposure to the returns from Real Estate without having to make a large investment. In India, Embassy Parks has a REit. (You check out more details here - b. Owner Financing - Ask the owner of the property to finance a portion of the loan.c. Broking - Identify promising real estate properties and pitch it to investors for a profit share or brokerage cut. d. Wholesaling - Go identify Real Estate Deals and sign a contract. Later, identify an investor and assign the contract to them for a fee. Like broking.Books – Money Honey: A Simple 7-Step Guide for Getting Your Financial $hit Together Passive Income, Aggressive Retirement: The Secret to Freedom, Flexibility, and Financial Independence (& how to get started!) Passive Income Bonus Kit - www.moneyhoneyrachel.com/bonusReach out to Rachel – Facebook Instagram Twitter WebsiteReach out to Naga – Twitter - @n1n3stuff / @PassionPeop1 (https://twitter.com/ThePassionPeop1 )Sound Attribution and Credits - Music from Pipo and Wowa(you should check out thier music on Spotify here - https://open.spotify.com/artist/6zZPxLiRfbGUnoEAJmfJJN) from Unminus. All music other than the jingle on the episode is under the CC0 License and downloaded from freesound.org , freemusicarchive.org and unminus.com Warning - Please consult a professional advisor before you make any financial decisions. Any opinions shared on this podcast should not be considered as professional advice and is for informational purposes only.    Follow The Passion People Podcast on TwitterYou can follow us and leave us feedback on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter @eplogmedia, For advertising/partnerships send you can send us an email at bonjour@eplog.media. If you like this show, please subscribe and leave us a review wherever you get your podcasts, so other people can find us. You can also find us on https://www.eplog.media/thepassionpeoplepodcast DISCLAIMER: The views expressed on all the shows produced and distributed by Ep.Log Media are personal to the host and the guest of the shows respectively and with no intention to harm the sentiments of any individual/organization.The said content is not obscene or blasphemous or defamatory of any event and/or person deceased or alive or in contempt of court or breach of contract or breach of privilege, or in violation of any provisions of the statute, nor hurt the sentiments of any religious groups/ person/government/non-government authorities and/or breach or be against any declared public policy of any nation or state.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

White Water Kayaker | Mountain Biker | Software Architect | Outdoor AdventuristA rafting trip to the Ganga which was on Manik's bucketlist made him realize how dumbing the experience of rafting under a guide on a classical touristy experience was and that pushed Manik towards the solo sport of Kayaking. During our conversation, we delve into how Bangalore is an unlikely place for one to Kayak and eventually go on to bust that myth.I want to tell you in advance that this episode will make you really really miss the great outdoors. This is a special dedication to all of our listeners from the South of India. Do some good – Following is the list of nonprofits that have been fully vetted and are run by trusted folks we have partnered with on projects previously. Spread some love and make contributions to organizations that cater to folks who have been left out of the traditional CSR Funds and PM CARES initiatives. ·  Zubin Sharma at Project Potential is helping daily wage workers in Thakurganj with daily rations. You can donate here: https://bit.ly/ProjP·  Sumit Singh at Jan Sahas is supporting migrant labourers in central India who have managed to return but have no jobs or money. You can donate here: bit.ly/JanSahas·  Prachi Singhal at Greenie is supporting low income communities and jan sevaks with masks and protective gear. You can donate here: bit.ly/greeniecorona·  K Ganesh and the good folks at KVN Foundation are feeding folks in the cities - https://paytm.com/helpinghand/feed-my-city-kvn-foundation Reach out to Manik -https://www.instagram.com/goodwavekayak/ https://www.facebook.com/GoodwaveAdventuresReach out to Naga -  Send him a tweet @n1n3stuff / @PassionPeop1 Sound Attribution and Credits - Kayak Sounds by AugustSandberg and Danjocross from Freesound.org, Other music from Pipo and Wowa(you should check out thier music on Spotify here - https://open.spotify.com/artist/6zZPxLiRfbGUnoEAJmfJJN) from Unminus. All music other than the jingle on the episode is under the CC0 License and downloaded from freesound.org , freemusicarchive.org and unminus.comRelated Episodes - The Ascender – World Record Holder – Satyarup - https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/naga-subramanya-b-b/the-passion-people-podcast/e/56180580The Add-Venturer – Ganesh - https://radiopublic.com/the-passion-people-podcast-6VollX/s1!a03c1    Follow The Passion People Podcast on TwitterYou can follow us and leave us feedback on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter @eplogmedia, For advertising/partnerships send you can send us an email at bonjour@eplog.media. If you like this show, please subscribe and leave us a review wherever you get your podcasts, so other people can find us. You can also find us on https://www.eplog.media/thepassionpeoplepodcast DISCLAIMER: The views expressed on all the shows produced and distributed by Ep.Log Media are personal to the host and the guest of the shows respectively and with no intention to harm the sentiments of any individual/organization.The said content is not obscene or blasphemous or defamatory of any event and/or person deceased or alive or in contempt of court or breach of contract or breach of privilege, or in violation of any provisions of the statute, nor hurt the sentiments of any religious groups/ person/government/non-government authorities and/or breach or be against any declared public policy of any nation or state.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Professional Dancer | Product Manager | CoachDance forms as a medium of expression. Latin and ballroom - different forms of dance. Fun and tricky because you have a partner. Amazing way to spend time at an evening outside. Latin and Ballroom - makes for a safe community. Does not mean you are intimate and makes for a safe environment, just a way out of their stresses. When it comes to art, there is no stopping to learn. You can explore so many different avenues. Art teaches you certain values. What can art do to you? Wonderful way to escape your daily stresses? Expand to have more dance teachers, new franchisees, independant teachers, aspect of a coach that I really like to do.Support Champaca Bookstore - https://www.champaca.in/gift-vouchers   Follow The Passion People Podcast on TwitterYou can follow us and leave us feedback on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter @eplogmedia, For advertising/partnerships send you can send us an email at bonjour@eplog.media. If you like this show, please subscribe and leave us a review wherever you get your podcasts, so other people can find us. You can also find us on https://www.eplog.media/thepassionpeoplepodcast DISCLAIMER: The views expressed on all the shows produced and distributed by Ep.Log Media are personal to the host and the guest of the shows respectively and with no intention to harm the sentiments of any individual/organization.The said content is not obscene or blasphemous or defamatory of any event and/or person deceased or alive or in contempt of court or breach of contract or breach of privilege, or in violation of any provisions of the statute, nor hurt the sentiments of any religious groups/ person/government/non-government authorities and/or breach or be against any declared public policy of any nation or state. Reach out to Naga - Send him a tweet @n1n3stuff / @PassionPeop1 Reach out to Uttara - Website - Dance With PanacheFacebook - https://www.facebook.com/uttara.vaidyae-mail - uttara.vaidya@gmail.comSmooth Intro Music credits to Trev Lewis from Hagfilms. You can reach them on youtube at - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLQzD3ime4cZV-rhZaL_yOwLNwASQYiOJEAll music other than the jingle on the episode is under the CC0 License and downloaded from freesound.org , freemusicarchive.org and unminus.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

We explore the following questions around what it means to be a conscious consumer in today's day and age and how Aish is making this passion of his, manifest. What is conscious consumerism? How did it impact Aish's life? What are the changes that he has made?How can people be more conscious? How is it linked to mindfulness?Reading Material discussed on the show - Gary Vaynerchuk on the biggest cultural shift of our times:  https://www.garyvaynerchuk.com/veecap372/John Mackey and Raj Sisodia’s Conscious Capitalism: https://www.amazon.in/Conscious-Capitalism-Liberating-Heroic-Business-ebook/dp/B00A9WE10YFred Koffman’s Conscious Business: https://www.amazon.in/Conscious-Business-Build-Value-Through/dp/1622032020/Ken Wilber’s Theory of Everything: https://www.amazon.in/Theory-Everything-Integral-Business-Spirituality/dp/1570628556/Ikigai: https://www.amazon.in/Ikigai-Héctor-Garc%C3%ADa/dp/178633089X/Conscious Capitalism NYC, where I met more members from the CC Community: https://www.consciouscapitalism.org/nycAish's coverage from Sustainable Brands Summit in Philadelphia: https://sustainablebrands.com/is/aishwarya-chaturvediReach out to Aish here -  www.linkedin.com/in/aichaturvedi; www.instagram.com/aichaturvedi; www.twitter.com/aichaturvedi;www.facebook.com/aichaturvediReach out to Naga - Send him a tweet @n1n3stuff / @PassionPeop1 All music other than the jingle on the episode is under the CC0 License and downloaded from freesound.orgTo know more check out this Medium Post - https://medium.com/we-learn-we-grow/lets-define-conscious-living-for-the-21st-century-336fcba332dc   Follow The Passion People Podcast on TwitterYou can follow us and leave us feedback on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter @eplogmedia, For advertising/partnerships send you can send us an email at bonjour@eplog.media. If you like this show, please subscribe and leave us a review wherever you get your podcasts, so other people can find us. You can also find us on https://www.eplog.media/thepassionpeoplepodcast DISCLAIMER: The views expressed on all the shows produced and distributed by Ep.Log Media are personal to the host and the guest of the shows respectively and with no intention to harm the sentiments of any individual/organization.The said content is not obscene or blasphemous or defamatory of any event and/or person deceased or alive or in contempt of court or breach of contract or breach of privilege, or in violation of any provisions of the statute, nor hurt the sentiments of any religious groups/ person/government/non-government authorities and/or breach or be against any declared public policy of any nation or state.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Journalist | Author | Marine Conservationist | Martial ArtistSudeep Chakravarti is an award-winning author of several bestselling works of narrative non-fiction. His latest book is Plassey: The Battle that Changed the Course of Indian History, published in January 2020. His other notable non-fiction works include The Bengalis: A Portrait of Community (shortlisted for The Hindu Prize, and Tata Literature Live! Award), Red Sun: Travels in Naxalite Country (shortlisted for the Crossword award), Highway 39: Travels Through a Fractured Land, set in Nagaland and Manipur, and Clear.Hold.Build (winner of the Prize for Excellence at Asian Publishing Awards). He has written three critically acclaimed novels (Tin Fish, The Avenue of Kings, and The Baptism of Tony Calangute) and short stories and works of non-fiction for several collections, and numerous essays. His work has been translated into various languages including Bengali, Hindi, Tamil, Spanish, Portuguese and German.An extensively published columnist, he has over three decades of experience in media, and has worked with major global and Indian media organizations including the Asian Wall Street Journal, where he began his career, and subsequently held leadership positions at Sunday, India Today, the India Today Group, where he was Executive Editor and Editor – Content Services, and HT Media, where he was Consultant Editor. Sudeep is also among India’s leading independent columnists and commentators on matters of internal security, conflict and conflict resolution, and the convergence of business and human rights. He has a regular column in Mint, and has written for numerous Indian and global publications.Sudeep read history at St Stephen’s College, University of Delhi. He is co-founder of Coastal Impact, an organization of divers and scientists which conducts research for institutions, and evangelizes marine conservation to school and university students. He lives in Goa.Reach out to Sudeep - Twitter: @chakraviewInstagram:  @sudeepchakravartiFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/sudeep.chakravarti.3 Read more of Sudeep's work - Columns at Mint:   https://www.livemint.com/Search/Link/Author/Sudeep%20Chakravarti Plassey on Amazon The Bengalis on Amazon Sudeep Chakravarti books on Amazon Reach out to Naga - Send him a tweet @n1n3stuff / @PassionPeop1Scuba Diving Music from - Jim Sheaffer - Check out Jim's work here - https://www.pond5.com/artist/jimsheafferDownloaded from https://freesound.org/people/HDVideoGuy/sounds/156011/All other music on the episode is under the CC0 License and downloaded from freesound.org   Follow The Passion People Podcast on TwitterYou can follow us and leave us feedback on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter @eplogmedia, For advertising/partnerships send you can send us an email at bonjour@eplog.media. If you like this show, please subscribe and leave us a review wherever you get your podcasts, so other people can find us. You can also find us on https://www.eplog.media/thepassionpeoplepodcast DISCLAIMER: The views expressed on all the shows produced and distributed by Ep.Log Media are personal to the host and the guest of the shows respectively and with no intention to harm the sentiments of any individual/organization.The said content is not obscene or blasphemous or defamatory of any event and/or person deceased or alive or in contempt of court or breach of contract or breach of privilege, or in violation of any provisions of the statute, nor hurt the sentiments of any religious groups/ person/government/non-government authorities and/or breach or be against any declared public policy of any nation or state.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

(Micro) Biologist | Eco Warrior | Change Agent  Simran is a Ph.D student studying Micro Biology specifically yeast as part of her Ph.D thesis. She is interested to know how micro-organisms can help humanity tackle the worlds impending problems like plastic and climate change. When she is not trying to hypnotize yeast cells to do something they aren't really happy doing, Simran is teaching children how to code with cute robots. Now, talk about science for good! Warning - This episode is highly techincal and sciency. If you are curious about how the world works, you would mostly likely really be hooked on to the show. :)   Follow The Passion People Podcast on TwitterYou can follow us and leave us feedback on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter @eplogmedia, For advertising/partnerships send you can send us an email at bonjour@eplog.media. If you like this show, please subscribe and leave us a review wherever you get your podcasts, so other people can find us. You can also find us on https://www.eplog.media/thepassionpeoplepodcast DISCLAIMER: The views expressed on all the shows produced and distributed by Ep.Log Media are personal to the host and the guest of the shows respectively and with no intention to harm the sentiments of any individual/organization.The said content is not obscene or blasphemous or defamatory of any event and/or person deceased or alive or in contempt of court or breach of contract or breach of privilege, or in violation of any provisions of the statute, nor hurt the sentiments of any religious groups/ person/government/non-government authorities and/or breach or be against any declared public policy of any nation or state.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.