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Discover the breadth and depth of permaculture through interviews with world-renowned teachers, experts, and authors as well as regional and local practitioners.
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My guest for this episode is Katrina Blair, author of the wonderful book The Wild Wisdom of Weeds from Chelsea Green Publishing. Katrina lives in Durango, Colorado at Turtle Lake Refuge, home to the Turtle Lake Community Farm and Wild Food CSA, and Local Wild Life Cafe.
My guest for this episode is Stephen Barstow, author of Around the World in 80 Plants. Together, we talk about his incredibly diverse garden in Norway where he grows over 2,000 edible plants in a rather small space. We begin with his background and how he came to have an interest in edibles, from his beginnings as a foraging vegetarian, to his beginning to eat and collect plants from wherever he traveled. He shares with us his love of edible ornamentals, or what Stephen calls edimentals, and he also recommends some to start with when first beginning to introduce more of these species into your garden.  Resources Edimentals.com (Stephen’s Website)  Around the World in 80 Plants (Chelsea Green Publishers)  Around the World in 80 Plants (Permanent Publications)  Sturtevants Edible Plants of the World (PDF. Large File)
Plants as People Care

Plants as People Care

2023-01-0747:58

My guest today is Nathan Carlos Rupley. A member of my permaculture community, he spends his time as a stay-at-home dad, self employed-artist, and aspiring hunter-gatherer. When not hanging out with his family or walking in the woods, you can find him reading about a wide range of subjects including simple living, foraging, native agriculture, natural building, “primitive” technology, philosophy, applied ecology, theology, and much more. He brings this knowledge to the table today as we discuss what he’s learning from the native plants of his ancestors. The exploration of these plants and the related cultures provide insights into his place in the world and where he comes from. This leads to a conversation that ranges around a variety of thoughts including how we can learn more about plants and their uses by studying folk and Latin binomial names. What understanding ancestral plants can teach us about our identity. The impacts of colonization, on the colonized and colonizer. And being good mentors and ancestors now and for the future. You can email Nate at nathanrupley@yahoo.com, with any comments, or questions, if you want to rewild your yard, or, if you’re ever in Central Pennsylvania, would like to join him for a foraging class or plant walk. Resources Nathan Carlos Rupley (Website) Nathan Carlos Rupley (Patreon) Nathan_Carlos_Rupley (Instagram) Gathering on YouTube Samuel Thayer / The Forager’s Harvest Steve Brill Backyard Medicine by Julie Bruton-Seal and Matthew Seal Wild Urban Plants of the Northeast by Peter Del Tradici Fandabi Dozi (YouTube) Ron Eglash - The fractals at the heart of African designs (TED Talk)
Visit Our Sponsor: Foraged.Market This episode is a remaster of my first interview with Eric Toensmeier, originally recorded in the early days of the show way back in 2012 when I still lived on the land in Pennsylvania. I’m sharing this as a follow-up to the most recent episode before this one where Eric joined me for another interview to talk about his current work on Alley Cropping. Depending on when you are listening to this, if you haven’t heard that show, definitely give it a listen. You’ll find that right before this one in the archives. If you are not familiar with Eric and his work, he is the author of numerous permaculture and permaculture-adjacent books, all of which I highly recommend for your library. Most recently, that includes Carbon Farming: A Global Toolkit of Perennial Crops and Regenerative Agriculture Practices for Climate Change Mitigation and Food Security. Another title where Eric is the sole author is Perennial Vegetables: From Artichoke to Zuiki Taro, a Gardener’s Guide to Over 100 Delicious, Easy-to-grow Edibles. He is the co-author, along with Dave Jacke, of Edible Forest Gardens and also wrote Paradise Lot with Jonathan Bates, the former of which is probably his most popular title in the permie community. Our conversation begins with Eric’s bio. He then answers some listener questions on perennials, then delves into perennial plants, the broad-scale application of permaculture, and removing some of the fear factors of implementing a forest garden. Throughout you will hear both of us touch on plants we would like to see improved and simple ways anyone who is growing a garden can help domesticate and improve edible perennials. - You can find Eric at PerennialSolutions.org - His latest venture, The Perennial Agriculture Institute, is at PerennialAgriculture.Institute. - You can also read Eric’s current writing and support his ongoing efforts at patreon.com/erictoensmeier. Resources Eric Toensmeier Perennial Solutions PerennialAgriculture.Institute Edible Forest Gardens Keyline Design USDA PLANTS Database Books Billy Joe Tatum's Wild Foods Field Guide and Cookbook (Out-of-Print. Bookfinder.com link) Breed Your Own Vegetable Varieties by Carol Deppe Creating a Forest Garden by Martin Crawford Edible Water Gardens by Nick Romanowski (Out-of-Print. Bookfinder.com link) The New American Landscape: Leading Voices on the Future of Sustainable Gardening Return to Resistance: Breeding Crops to Reduce Pesticide Dependence by Raoul Robinson Uncommon Fruits for Every Garden Wild Urban Plants of the Northeast - A Field Guide
Visit Our Sponsor: Foraged.Market Donate Directly: via PayPal -or- Venmo @permaculturepodcast   Want to listen to more conversations about Permaculture?  Browse the extensive archives of the show.  Can you live an enjoyable, self-indulgent life while remaining thrifty and at the same time not overtaxing Earth's resources? To have all of that sounds too good to be true. If you follow what Annie Raser-Rowland suggested in her book The Art of Frugal Hedonism, however, the answer rings out as a resounding Yes! Learn More
Donate Directly: via PayPal -or- Venmo @permaculturepodcast   Want to listen to more conversations about Permaculture?  Browse the extensive archives of the show.    My guest today is Jerome Osentowski, founder of Central Rocky Mountain Permaculture Institute, a long time permaculture practitioners and teacher, and author of the new book The Forest Garden Greenhouse, available from Chelsea Green Publishing.   Learn More
Donate Directly: via PayPal -or- Venmo @permaculturepodcast   Want to listen to more conversations about Permaculture?  Browse the extensive archives of the show.  My guest today is Robyn Mello, the program director for Philadelphia Orchard Project, and is a deeper look at her life, work, and thoughts within and beyond that project, which she provided a brief overview to in Episode 1609: An Introduction to the Philadelphia Orchard Project. Give that episode a listen to learn more about how this non-profit installs orchards throughout the city of Philadelphia.   Learn More
Donate Directly: via PayPal -or- Venmo @permaculturepodcast   Want to listen to more conversations about Permaculture?  Browse the extensive archives of the show.  This Permabyte is a reading by Byron of his article "A Lesson in Identity".   Learn More
Donate Directly: via PayPal -or- Venmo @permaculturepodcast   Want to listen to more conversations about Permaculture?  Browse the extensive archives of the show.  Enjoy this episode? Become a Patron.   Learn More
Donate Directly: via PayPal -or- Venmo @permaculturepodcast   Want to listen to more conversations about Permaculture?  Browse the extensive archives of the show.  My guest for this episode is Dina Falconi, an herbalist from the Hudson Valley of New York and the author of the gorgeous book Foraging and Feasting, which you’ll find at botanicalartspress.com.   Learn More
Donate Directly: via PayPal -or- Venmo @permaculturepodcast   Want to listen to more conversations about Permaculture?  Browse the extensive archives of the show.  Like this podcast? Support the show on Patreon.   Learn More
Donate Directly: via PayPal -or- Venmo @permaculturepodcast   Want to listen to more conversations about Permaculture?  Browse the extensive archives of the show.  My guest for this episode is the rewilder Peter Michael Bauer, from Portland, Oregon, who is also a trained permaculture practitioner who studied under Toby Hemenway. Peter is the executive director of Rewild Portland, an environmental education non-profit that uses hands-on workshops and classes to teach earth-based arts, skills, and technologies.   Learn More
Support the Podcast Donate Directly: via PayPal -or- Venmo @permaculturepodcast Join our Patreon community!   Want to listen to more conversations about Permaculture?  Browse the extensive archives of the show.  My guest for this episode is Sandor Katz, author of Wild Fermentation, The Art of Fermentation, and The Revolution Will Not Be Microwaved. If you’ve practiced any kind of fermentation and went looking for a recipe, reference, or just read about the wee yeasties and bacteria that transform our foods with their microbial magic, then you’ve probably read something by Sandor, and I recommend reading even more.   Learn More
Support the 2023/2024 Campaign to Save Scott's Liver (and Heart) Donate Directly: via PayPal -or- Venmo @permaculturepodcast   Want to listen to more conversations about Permaculture?  Browse the extensive archives of the show.  Clare Kenny of The Mudgirls Natural Building Collective joins me to continue our conversation about how she and the others of the group come together to create community and opportunity with natural building, and the lessons they share through The Mudgirls Manifesto, a book they wrote together which was released earlier this year.   Learn More
Support the 2023/2024 Campaign to Save Scott's Liver (and Heart) Donate Directly: via PayPal -or- Venmo @permaculturepodcast   Want to listen to more conversations about Permaculture?  Browse the extensive archives of the show.  My guests today are five members of the Mudgirls Natural Building Collective, a Canadian women-owned and operated group of builders who focus on materials and techniques like cob, earthen plaster, earthen floors, and living roofs, and authors, together, of the recently released Mudgirls Manifesto from New Society Publishers.   Learn More
Support the 2023/2024 Campaign to Save Scott's Liver (and Heart) Want to listen to more conversations about Permaculture?  Browse the extensive archives of the show.  Today, Michael Judd joins me to discuss his book: For the Love of PawPaws: A Mini Manual for Growing and Caring for PawPaws - From Seed to Table.   Learn More
Donate Directly: via PayPal -or- Venmo @permaculturepodcast   Want to listen to more conversations about Permaculture?  Browse the extensive archives of the show.  Like this podcast? Support it on Patreon.   Learn More
Donate Directly: via PayPal -or- Venmo @permaculturepodcast   Want to listen to more conversations about Permaculture?  Browse the extensive archives of the show.  My guest today is Lisa Rose, author most recently of Midwest Foraging, which was supposed to be the basis of our conversation and we do touch on that some, but also spend our time telling stories about family traditions; place and the lands we each feel connected to; and how foraging and food can return seasonality to our lives, along with a host of new flavors, once we leave the grocery store behind.   Learn More
Donate Directly: via PayPal -or- Venmo @permaculturepodcast   Want to listen to more conversations about Permaculture?  Browse the extensive archives of the show.        Learn More
Donate Directly: via PayPal -or- Venmo @permaculturepodcast   Want to listen to more conversations about Permaculture?  Browse the extensive archives of the show.  My guest for this episode is Katrina Blair, author of the wonderful book The Wild Wisdom of Weeds recently released by Chelsea Green. Katrina lives in Durango, Colorado at Turtle Lake Refuge, home to the Turtle Lake Community Farm and Wild Food CSA, and Local Wild Life Cafe.   Learn More
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Comments (11)

Mr A

sounds exciting, but it's the same old tiresome tropes being pushed out by 'permaculturists'. yawn

Oct 9th
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Papa. Shred

is this interviewer a real person or Ai?

Aug 18th
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it

how awesome to find this interview with the Amazing #AndrewMagazine

Jul 1st
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Eliza Cacheva

Thank you for making this! 🙂

Feb 14th
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ncooty

Better title: Alan Savory reads prepared responses. Like most others, this interviewer is very credulous, as if no research is available, and we must rely on storytellers. Years ago, I visited ACHM, Savory's land in Zimbabwe. It didn't take long to see that Savory is mostly marketing. At the time, his enormous ranch wasn't self-sufficient--and there was no plan to make it so. The income was from elephant hunts (yes, elephant hunts), international grants, and his speaking fees/ book sales. The photos from his TED talk are deceptive. (I visited the specific sites with land managers who were there contemporaneously.) Not everything he says is wrong, but much of it is contravened by research (e.g., trade-offs between hoof disturbance and soil compaction).

Aug 29th
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Coboco Creek

This is really great news. Your show has helped my mindset change more towards acceptance of myself and the world. The discussions are inspiring and thought provoking. I love applying some of the concepts you talk about to my own life, it's really true to the core reflection on you and your guests end, but transforms into guidance for this listener :)

Jun 2nd
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Matthew Davila

sweet and practical. couldn't listen to all of it cause sounds quality of the interviewee was too deep and distorted.

Oct 18th
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Matthew Davila

horrible sound. I stopped listening. want to hear her stuff though

Jul 26th
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Mona Bennani

Why haven't the earlier episodes been downloaded?

Apr 8th
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