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This episode is a remaster of my first interview with Eric Toensmeier, originally recorded in the early days of the show way back in 2012 when I still lived on the land in Pennsylvania. I’m sharing this as a follow-up to the most recent episode before this one where Eric joined me for another interview to talk about his current work on Alley Cropping. Depending on when you are listening to this, if you haven’t heard that show, definitely give it a listen. You’ll find that right before this one in the archives.



If you are not familiar with Eric and his work, he is the author of numerous permaculture and permaculture-adjacent books, all of which I highly recommend for your library. Most recently, that includes Carbon Farming: A Global Toolkit of Perennial Crops and Regenerative Agriculture Practices for Climate Change Mitigation and Food Security. Another title where Eric is the sole author is Perennial Vegetables: From Artichoke to Zuiki Taro, a Gardener’s Guide to Over 100 Delicious, Easy-to-grow Edibles. He is the co-author, along with Dave Jacke, of Edible Forest Gardens and also wrote Paradise Lot with Jonathan Bates, the former of which is probably his most popular title in the permie community.



Our conversation begins with Eric’s bio. He then answers some listener questions on perennials, then delves into perennial plants, the broad-scale application of permaculture, and removing some of the fear factors of implementing a forest garden. Throughout you will hear both of us touch on plants we would like to see improved and simple ways anyone who is growing a garden can help domesticate and improve edible perennials.



- You can find Eric at PerennialSolutions.org

- His latest venture, The Perennial Agriculture Institute, is at PerennialAgriculture.Institute.

- You can also read Eric’s current writing and support his ongoing efforts at patreon.com/erictoensmeier.



Resources

Eric Toensmeier

Perennial Solutions

PerennialAgriculture.Institute

Edible Forest Gardens

Keyline Design

USDA PLANTS Database



Books

Billy Joe Tatum's Wild Foods Field Guide and Cookbook (Out-of-Print. Bookfinder.com link)

Breed Your Own Vegetable Varieties by Carol Deppe

Creating a Forest Garden by Martin Crawford

Edible Water Gardens by Nick Romanowski (Out-of-Print. Bookfinder.com link)

The New American Landscape: Leading Voices on the Future of Sustainable Gardening

Return to Resistance: Breeding Crops to Reduce Pesticide Dependence by Raoul Robinson

Uncommon Fruits for Every Garden

Wild Urban Plants of the Northeast - A Field Guide