The Phoenix Effect Podcast: Narrative Therapy in Action

In this episode, podcast host Elle explains how story work and story groups change your brain and provide a unique path to seeing the changes you want in your life. To learn more about Elle visit: https://www.courageousstepscounseling.com and to find on social media locate therapy with_elle on instagram and TikTok

Welcome to the Phoenix Effect Podcast, hosted by Elle, Kristen and Dennis. Join us as we delve deep into the human experience, uncovering the stories behind the search for belonging, purpose, and success. As narrative-trained therapists, we bring a unique perspective to our interviews with individuals from all walks of life – from the renowned to the everyday heroes. Get ready to be inspired, challenged and uplifted as we navigate the extraordinary journeys that shape us all. And if you have a story that needs to be told, stay tuned until the end to discover how to become a part of the show. The Phoenix Effect Podcast, where stories ignite change. Coming soon to your favorite podcast platform.

Navigating Childhood Memories & Christmas Disappointments | The Phoenix Effect Join Elle, Kristen, and Dennis on this special Christmas episode of the Phoenix Effect podcast. In this heartwarming session, the trio of narrative-trained therapists delve deep into personal childhood memories, exploring themes of disappointment and emotional complexities around the holiday season. Kristen shares a poignant story about a long-desired American Girl doll, leading to a rich discussion about family dynamics, unfulfilled expectations, and how childhood experiences shape adult perspectives. The episode closes with reflective conversations about managing holiday stress and the importance of self-kindness. Don't miss out on this compelling exploration of the human experience. 00:00 Introduction to the Phoenix Effect Podcast 00:34 Special Christmas Episode Begins 00:49 Kristin's American Girl Doll Story 05:03 Exploring Disappointment and Family Dynamics 15:02 Elle's Christmas Memories 24:57 Reflections on Christmas and Self-Kindness 27:23 Conclusion and Listener Invitation To learn more about Kristin visit: https://www.kristinboscaljon.com To learn more about Elle visit: https://courageousstepscounseling.com and on instagram and TikTok therapy wit_h elle #christmas #disappointingchristmas #christmasstories #therapy #narrativetherapy

Exploring Faith, Belonging, and Personal Struggles | The Phoenix Effect Podcast Join narrative trained therapists Elle, Kristen, and Dennis in 'The Phoenix Effect' podcast as they dive deep into personal stories of faith, belonging, and the quest for purpose. In this episode, Dennis shares his personal journey from Catholic school to a transformative encounter with a pastor during his college years. Struggling with organized religion, Dennis explores his evolving relationship with faith, the challenges of fitting into church structures, and how his body and mind grapple with feelings of being trapped. Listen as they discuss the complexities of staying true to oneself while navigating external expectations, and the importance of trusting one's body and experiences. Stay tuned for insights on how to share your own story on the podcast. 00:00 Introduction to the Phoenix Effect Podcast 00:31 A Personal Journey of Faith 01:28 Struggles with Organized Religion 02:41 Feeling Trapped and Seeking Freedom 05:30 The Conflict Between Faith and Personal Needs 09:31 Rediscovering Faith and Community 20:45 The Importance of Trusting Your Body 24:13 Conclusion and How to Get Involved #church #spiritualabuse #adhd #neurodivergent #religoustrauma https://courageousstepscounseling.com https://www.kristinboscaljon.com

The Phoenix Effect Podcast: Mikayla's Journey Through Truth and Spiritual Evolution Welcome to the Phoenix Effect podcast with Elle, Kristen, and Dennis. In this episode, the hosts interview Mikayla, a therapist and spirituality coach from Crosby, Texas. Mikayla shares her profound journey of grappling with truth and spirituality, from a strict Christian upbringing and challenging family dynamics to finding her own spiritual path. The conversation delves into Mikayla's experiences with religious indoctrination, family debates, and her eventual shift in understanding truth and spirituality. Tune in to explore the depths of Mikayla's narrative and the emotional insights it brings. 00:00 Introduction to the Phoenix Effect Podcast 00:34 Meet Mikayla: A Journey Begins 02:33 Mikayla's Story: The Search for Truth 10:02 Family Dynamics and Personal Struggles 22:25 Reflections and Healing 34:30 Conclusion and Podcast Information To learn more about Kristin visit: https://www.kristinboscaljon.com To learn more about Elle visit: https://courageousstepscounseling.com

The Phoenix Effect Podcast: Tara's Story of Loss, Healing, and Resilience Join Elle, Kristen, and Dennis on the Phoenix Effect podcast where they interview Tara, a life coach from Wilmington, North Carolina. In this emotional episode, Tara shares her journey through the pain of losing her father to cancer while battling personal and professional challenges. Through her raw and heartfelt narrative, Tara discusses her struggles with burnout, the pressures of work, and the deep emotional impact of missing her father's last moments. Tune in to hear a story about finding balance, understanding true priorities, and the ongoing journey towards healing and self-awareness. 00:00 Introduction to the Phoenix Effect Podcast 00:34 Meet Tara: A Journey to North Carolina 02:16 Life with Five Dogs 03:17 Tara's Career Path: From Higher Education to Life Coaching 05:09 A Pivotal Moment: Writing Her Story 08:13 The Story of Dad's Passing 13:43 Reflections and Regrets 25:21 Support Systems and Burnout 36:20 Concluding Thoughts and Farewell To learn more about Elle visit:https://courageousstepscounseling.com To learn more about Kristin visit:https://www.kristinboscaljon.com

Jonathan's Journey: From Numbing to Enlightenment - Phoenix Effect Podcast Join Elle, Kristen, and Dennis in this episode of the Phoenix Effect podcast as they delve into Jonathan's transformative journey. Jonathan, a breathwork facilitator and integrative specialist from Tucson, Arizona, shares his powerful story of moving from a life of substance dependence to mindfulness and self-discovery. Listen as he recounts the pivotal day on a windy, cold beach in LA that led to his sobriety and deepened his meditation practice. This heartfelt conversation explores themes of loneliness, compassion, and the importance of staying present in the midst of discomfort. Tune in to find inspiration in Jonathan's path and learn how mindfulness and meditation can lead to profound personal change. 00:00 Introduction to the Phoenix Effect Podcast 00:34 Meet Jonathan: Breathwork Facilitator and Integrative Specialist 02:22 Jonathan's Journey to Sobriety and Meditation 04:05 The Turning Point: Meditation on the Beach 09:04 Reflections on Transformation and Sobriety 14:42 Exploring the Depths of Loneliness and Healing 33:01 Conclusion and Listener Invitation To learn more about Elle visit: https://courageousstepscounseling.com To learn more about Kristin visit: https://www.kristinboscaljon.com

Facing Anxiety and Depression: Brian Suchetta's Journey | The Phoenix Effect Podcast Join Elle, Kristin, and Dennis in this episode of The Phoenix Effect podcast as they interview Brian Suchetta, a software developer and part-time writer from Boston, MA. Brian shares his powerful story of dealing with anxiety and depression, dating back to his first panic attack at 17. He discusses the therapeutic journey that led to his book series 'Get Out of Your Head,' the struggles of writing and publishing, and the impact of these mental health challenges on his life. Tune in to explore the depths of Brian's experience and gain insights into coping mechanisms for anxiety and depression. Don't miss out on this enlightening conversation and learn how to share your story on our show. 00:00 Introduction to the Phoenix Effect Podcast 00:33 Meet Brian: A Bostonian's Lifestyle 01:51 Brian's Writing Journey and Mental Health Struggles 02:54 The First Panic Attack: A Life-Changing Moment 04:47 Coping Mechanisms and Personal Growth08:06 Exploring the Roots of Anxiety 12:17 Family Dynamics and Emotional Expression21:11 The Impact of Panic Attacks and Seeking Empathy 34:28 Conclusion and Listener Engagement Check out Brian's books:“Get Out of Your Head: A Toolkit forLiving with and Overcoming Anxiety” and “Get Out of Your Head Vol. 2: Navigating the Abyss of Depression.” To learn more about Elle visit:https://courageousstepscounseling.comTo learn more about Kristin visit:https://www.kristinboscaljon.com

Escaping Religious Trauma: Ryan's Journey from Cult Abuse to Healing | Phoenix Effect PodcastJoin hosts Elle, Kristen, and Dennis on the Phoenix Effect podcast as they delve into the deeply moving story of Ryan, a storyteller and podcaster, who recounts his harrowing 11-year experience within a manipulative and abusive religious cult in Los Angeles. Ryan shares his journey from the initial allure and enticement of the cult, to the traumatic realization of its oppressive and isolating control tactics. The episode explores his transformation from a manipulated teenager subjected to spiritual abuse and isolation, to a self-aware adult dedicated to healing through storytelling and podcasting. Along the way, Ryan reflects on the importance of truth-telling, active listening, and reclaiming one's identity and faith in the aftermath of such experiences. Tune in for an in-depth discussion on the impact of religious trauma and the power of resilience and human spirit.00:00 Introduction to the Phoenix Effect Podcast00:33 Meet Ryan: A Journey of Healing01:04 The Truth That Heals: Ryan's Story01:49 Life in the Cult: Manipulation and Control05:50 Breaking Free: The Path to Healing12:17 The Allure of the Cult: Vulnerability and Faith17:08 The Moment of Doubt: Realizing the Truth20:32 Family Ties: The Struggle to Leave21:45 Manipulation and Guilt23:34 Isolation and Control25:42 Confronting Abuse28:26 Escape and New Challenges30:48 Finding Belonging34:19 Podcasting for Healing38:27 Conclusion and Final Thoughts#religoustrauma #spiritualabuse #cult #truththatheals #healing #podcast #narrativestory #truth #cult To learn more about elle visit:https://courageousstepscounseling.comTo lean more about kristin visit:https://www.kristinboscaljon.com

In this episode Elle, Kristin, and Dennis process what happened after we stopped recording an unpublished podcast. How are our own styles of relating and wounds showing up with our guests? You are about to find out. #podcasts #therapy #therapistlife #narrativetherapy #triggered To find out more about Elle you can visit: http://courageousstepscounseling.com To find out more about Kristin you can visit https://www.kristinboscaljon.com

Is #therapy and #religion a cult? What happens when leaders think they have the corner on #truth? Join hosts Elle, Kristen, and Dennis on the Phoenix Effect Podcast as they explore the nuanced dynamics of power, control, and harm in therapy and religious contexts. Through personal stories and professional insights, they discuss the complexity of finding belonging, purpose, and success while navigating abuse of power and the desperate pursuit of control. This episode delves deep into the human experience, the challenges faced in both therapeutic and faith-based environments, and the importance of attunement and repair in healing. 00:00 Introduction to the Phoenix Effect Podcast 00:32 Exploring Faith and Connection 01:11 Therapy and the Abuse of Power 02:17 Personal Stories of Harm and Healing 06:44 Parenting Challenges and Misguided Advice 21:01 Reflecting on Control and Desperation 26:25 Conclusion and Listener Invitation To learn more about Elle visit: https://courageousstepscounseling.com/ To learn more about Kristin visit: https://www.kristinboscaljon.com

The Phoenix Effect Podcast: Exploring Authenticity and Belonging Join Elle, Kristen, and Dennis, three narrative trained therapists, on the Phoenix Effect podcast as they explore profound topics around belonging, authenticity, and the human experience. In this episode, they delve into the challenges and nuances of finding belonging and purpose amid evolving beliefs and personal discovery. They discuss how the root of suffering can stem from a lack of true belonging, and share personal and heartfelt conversations about the struggles and revelations encountered on the journey to authentic living. Listen in for an insightful and deeply emotional conversation aimed at understanding what it means to truly belong and connect. 00:00 Introduction to the Phoenix Effect Podcast 00:34 Exploring the Root of Suffering: Not Belonging 05:33 Kristen's Journey of Faith and Self-Discovery 10:33 The Struggle of Authenticity and Connection 25:16 Navigating Ruptures and Repairs in Relationships 33:22 Concluding Thoughts and How to Get Involved To learn more about Elle visit: https://www.courageousstepscounseling.com To learn more about Kristin visit: https://www.kristinboscaljon.com

Exploring #Somatics and #Healing: The Phoenix Effect Podcast Welcome to the Phoenix Effect podcast with therapists Elle, Kristen, and Dennis. In this episode, Elle delves into #somatics and its role in #healing, sharing personal experiences and introducing concepts like #interoception, #proprioception, and #extroception. Discover how listening to our bodies can lead to #embodied transformation and #authentic living. Learn about the journey of previous guest Janie Lacey and Elle's own experiences with her voice and anxiety. Tune in for insights and inspiration on connecting with oneself and others. 00:00 Introduction to the Phoenix Effect Podcast 00:31 Exploring Somatics and Healing 02:52 Understanding Interoception, Proprioception, and Exteroception 04:22 Connecting Body Awareness to Personal Transformation 07:52 Personal Stories of Transformation 08:26 Elle's Journey with Her Voice 10:04 Conclusion and Call to Action 10:52 Disclaimer and Final Notes

This week we have honored celebrity psychotherapist @Janie Lacy. Janie and Elle went to school together back in the day, and Janie graciously agreed to share her story of why she does what she does, and how she does it. #traumatherapist #trauma #somatics #mindbodyconnection #therapy #celebritytherapist The Power of Sharing Your Story: Overcoming Trauma and Finding Freedom In this episode of the Phoenix Effect podcast, hosts Elle, Kristen, and Dennis, all narrative-trained therapists, delve into a powerful conversation with Janie, a psychotherapist and relationship trauma expert from Orlando, Florida. Janie shares her transformative journey from a traumatic childhood to helping women heal from toxic relationships. She discusses her various professional roles, including running Life Counseling Solutions, teaching at the International Institute of Trauma and Addiction Professionals, and her media appearances. Janie emphasizes the importance of community, personal growth, and feeling comfortable in one's body as key components of healing and empowerment. This episode not only explores the depths of human experience but also provides valuable insights for those on their own healing journeys. 00:00 Introduction to the Phoenix Effect Podcast 00:34 Meet Janie: A Relationship Trauma Expert 01:17 Janie's Professional Journey and Projects 03:24 The Origin of Janie's Passion 08:51 Personal Healing and Empowerment 21:16 The Importance of Community and Environment 29:11 Healing Through the Body 39:54 Conclusion and How to Get Involved To learn more about Janie visit: https://www.janielacy.com To learn more about Elle visit: https://www.courageousstepscounseling.com To learn more about Kristin visit: https://www.kristinboscaljon.com

Join Elle, Kristen, and Dennis as they dive deep into a heartfelt conversation with Megan, a life and swim coach from Northeast Indiana. Megan shares her personal journey with #anxiety, starting from childhood fears and progressing to becoming a coach who helps others manage stress and achieve their goals. This episode explores themes of #belonging, purpose, and the impact of #childhood experiences on adult life. Megan's story is one of #resilience and finding strength amidst challenges. Don't miss this inspiring episode to learn how Megan found her path and continues to support others through their own journeys. Stay tuned to learn how to share your story on the Phoenix Effect podcast. 00:00 Introduction to the Phoenix Effect Podcast 00:33 Meet Megan: Life Coach and Swim Coach 05:59 Megan's Journey with Anxiety 12:47 Childhood Memories and Anxiety Triggers 20:43 The Inner Conflict: Balancing Empathy and Independence 21:51 Fear of Separation and Its Impact 22:24 Parental Anxiety and the Need for Control 23:41 Coping Mechanisms and Childhood Fears 24:36 Reflecting on Past Traumas and Relationships 25:51 Understanding Childhood Anxiety and Parental Roles 27:18 The Role of Friends and Family in Managing Anxiety 34:46 Concluding Thoughts and Reflections

You didn't get #anxiety because there is something fundamentally flawed about you. In this episode Elle unpacks how anxiety is tied to our stories and how #generationaltrauma plays a part. Unpacking Anxiety: Understanding Its Roots and Reactions In this episode of the Phoenix Effect podcast, narrative trained therapists Elle, Kristen, and Dennis explore the distinctions between anxiety and fear, drawing insights from Hilary Jacobs Hindel. They delve into how early experiences with emotions like sadness, grief, anger, and fear shape our anxiety as adults. They discuss the impact of parenting styles, religious teachings, and generational trauma on emotional regulation. The podcast also offers practical steps for raising awareness and kindness toward our emotional experiences and shares personal anecdotes to illustrate these concepts. Join us to understand and manage anxiety more effectively. 00:00 Introduction to the Phoenix Effect Podcast 00:33 Understanding Anxiety vs. Fear 01:23 Impact of Childhood Experiences on Emotions 04:34 The Role of Religion in Emotional Suppression 05:18 Recognizing and Processing Emotions 10:04 Generational Impact on Emotional Health 10:36 Personal Stories and Healing Journey 13:06 Conclusion and How to Get Involved To learn more about Elle visit: https://www.courageousstepscounseling.com and follow on social media at therapy with _elle

Finding Healing Through Storytelling | The Phoenix Effect Podcast Welcome to The Phoenix Effect podcast with Elle, Kristen, and Dennis. In this episode, we interview Anastasia, a Polish-born storyteller who shares her journey from toxic relationships and trauma to finding healing and purpose through storytelling and community. Learn about her Facebook group 'Expose,' where people share their experiences of trauma and recovery, and discover the therapeutic power of sharing your story. Anastasia opens up about her painful past, including dealing with family mental health issues and finding solace in acting and community support. Join us as we delve into the depths of the human experience and find hope in shared narratives. 00:00 Introduction to the Phoenix Effect Podcast 00:34 Meet Anastasia: A Journey of Resilience 02:24 The Healing Power of Sharing Stories 05:12 Exploring Expose: Transforming Trauma into Triumph 08:20 Anastasia's Personal Story: Overcoming Childhood Trauma 11:22 Reflections on Healing and Generational Trauma 22:14 The Burden and Gift of Making Sense of Trauma 29:42 Conclusion and Call to Action To learn more about Anastazja go to: Sign up now for a free screening of Anastazja's Exposé Documentary: https://exposenetwork.weebly.com/screening.html And follow her on YouTube at: https://www.youtube.com/@exposenetwork22/featured To learn more about Elle go to: https://www.courageousstepscounseling.com and follow her on social media at @therapy with_elle To learn more about Kristin go to: https://www.kristinboscaljon.com

The Phoenix Effect Podcast: Exploring Styles of Relating and Childhood Impact Welcome to today's episode of the Phoenix Effect Podcast with Elle, Kristen, and Dennis, where we delve into the stories and psychological insights that shape our lives. We discuss the concept of 'styles of relating,' and how our childhood experiences influence our present-day interactions. Reflecting on Nathan's story from previous episodes, we examine unconscious adaptations that help us navigate relationships but can lead to difficulties outside the familial context. We pose introspective questions regarding parental influence and emotional management, and share personal stories to illustrate these concepts. Stay tuned as we introduce Anastasia's mission to educate on abuse and healing in the next episode. Make sure to subscribe, leave a review, and reach out if you'd like to share your story. 00:00 Introduction to The Phoenix Effect Podcast 00:34 Understanding Styles of Relating 01:35 Nathan's Story: A Deep Dive 02:58 Reflecting on Childhood and Parental Influence 04:47 Personal Reflections and Insights 06:10 Preview of Anastasia's Story 06:31 Engage with Us and Final Thoughts 07:15 Disclaimer and Professional Advice

What is it like after a story engagement? Listen in as Nathan processes what it was like to engage a story. What things came up? What did he do with that? What were the take aways? Exploring Vulnerability and Connection with Nathan Key | The Phoenix Effect Podcast Join narrative-trained therapists Elle, Kristen, and Dennis on The Phoenix Effect Podcast as they delve into the depths of human experience by interviewing storytellers from various walks of life. In this episode, they welcome back Nathan Key, who shares his journey of finding belonging, purpose, and success. The discussion covers Nathan's reflections on his relationship with his parents, especially his father, and the impact it has on his approach to parenting. Tune in to witness heartfelt conversations and insights into healing and personal growth. Don't miss out on how you can share your own story on the show! 00:00 Introduction to the Phoenix Effect Podcast 00:33 Welcoming Nathan Key 01:11 Nathan's Reflections and Takeaways 03:05 Exploring Family Dynamics 04:45 Kristen's Insights and Questions 05:56 Nathan's Relationship with His Parents 11:25 Connecting with His Children 34:30 The Role of Encouragement 36:33 Conclusion and How to Get Involved To learn more about Elle visit: https://www.courageousstepscounseling.com She can be found on social media at: therapy with_elle To learn more about Kristin visit: https://www.kristinboscaljon.com

For years it has been touted that if you want well-adjusted children you should prioritize family dinners. This ritual gives children a sense of stability, connection, and nourishment. Let's be real. Not all our memories at the dinner table are moments of connection and flourishing. In this episode we hear from Nathan on a story from the family dinner table. Uncovering Childhood Struggles and Family Dynamics with Nathan Key Join Elle, Kristen, and Dennis on the Phoenix Effect podcast as they interview Nathan Key, a training and development professional from Maine. Nathan shares a poignant story of his childhood, revealing the challenges he faced growing up with a strong-willed mother and an emotionally distant father. Through his narrative, listeners gain insight into family dynamics, personal autonomy, and resilience. This episode delves into Nathan's journey of standing up for himself, the emotional impact of rigid household rules, and the enduring struggle for personal freedom within a family setting. 00:00 Introduction to the Phoenix Effect Podcast 00:34 Meet Nathan Key: Life in Maine 01:49 Father's Day Weekend: The Real Story 04:23 Nathan's Story: A Family Dinner 08:02 Processing the Story: Emotions and Reflections 12:40 Exploring Family Dynamics 34:14 Conclusion and Listener InvitationTo learn more about Elle you can visit: https://www.courageousstepscounseling.com you can find her on social media at: therapy with_elle on instagram and tik tok To learn more about Kristin you can visit: https://www.kristinboscaljon.com #parenting #familydinner