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The Property Podcast from Property Hub (propertyhub.net) is the podcast for all property investors – new or experienced. Rob Bence and Rob Dix discuss a different property topic and property news item each week, passing on their knowledge and experience to the listeners. They both invest in UK Property so they practise what they preach. No hard sell, no bull just straight talking property investment advice!
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They’ve called it right before, but can Rob & Rob really predict the next decade of property? From prices and regional divides to the rise of the robots (yes, really), nothing’s off the table.
And if you think that sounds exciting, wait until you hear their insider intel on the unique market moment that’s about to close.
(0:50) News story of the week
(5:07) The next decade in property
(5:59) How ownership models could change
(9:55) The future of build-to-rent
(11:23) Government goals – will they actually stick to them?
(12:32) The shifting regional picture
(14:17) The big one – property prices
(15:15) Wildcards to watch out for
(19:15) Rob & Rob’s bold predictions revealed
(24:55) Hub Extra
Links mentioned:
Death of the Legacy Landlord – listen here
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Welcome back to Ask Rob & Rob! Today, we’re diving into questions about starting a property portfolio and navigating the London market.
(0:42) After inheriting a low six-figure sum, Felix is keen to start building his property portfolio but isn’t sure where to begin. With no income yet as a full-time student and cautious about risk, what will Rob & Rob suggest for someone starting out from his position?
(5:10) Zara’s almost finished paying off the mortgage on her two-bedroom leasehold flat in London. She wants to upsize to a larger property and is wondering whether to keep her current flat as a rental to help cover costs, or sell it given rising service charges and potential resale challenges.
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We’ve answered over 1,000 of your questions since our first Ask Rob & Rob episode - and six clear themes have emerged.
In this episode, we’re breaking down the key lessons behind those questions to share the most valuable insights you can apply to your own property journey.
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(1:03) News story of the week
(6:41) Lesson 1
(8:48) Lesson 2
(12:21) Lesson 3
(14:23) Lesson 4
(16:55) Lesson 5
(19:36) Lesson 6
(22:02) Hub Extra
Links mentioned:
Check out tax experts Provestor for advice or email them directly at hello@provestor.co.uk
Access our location guide & limited company tools here
Ask Rob AI a question
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It’s our 500th episode, and we’ve got two great questions from our very special guests to get the party started!
(1:05) After hearing that one in ten tenants are “bad tenants”, Damien’s wondering how true that actually is. He wants to know what the real chances are of ending up with a troublesome tenant and whether Rob & Rob have any experience or data to back it up.
(4:35) Andy’s been researching property-related demographic trends and is curious about their potential impact. With more people living into their 90s and their homes eventually returning to the market, could this create a wave of supply that shifts the UK housing market in the years ahead?
Links:
Watch: Damien Talks Money YouTube channel here.
Pre-order Andrew Craig’s new book, How To Own The World Before You’re 30
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There’s what you think is happening in the property market… and then there’s what’s really going on behind the scenes. Every day, Rob & Rob talk to key players shaping the industry and now they’re sharing insider insights you won’t find anywhere else.
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(0:47) News story of the week.
(3:40) Rob & Rob get to sharing their insider insights…
(4:50) Let’s get inside updates from big national developers
(11:25) Now for the mid-sized regional developers.
(17:47) What’s going on with build to rent?
(19:40) What does this means for investors?
(21:48) Hub Extra.
Links mentioned:
Hamptons: The next generation of landlord emerges
Get the Flight Radar 24 Widget here
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It’s that time again! Let’s get into this week’s Ask Rob & Rob with two new great questions…
(0:42) Claire has four properties in her portfolio and has just received a surprise inheritance large enough to clear all her mortgages. But should she use it to pay them off? And how can she make sure her portfolio stays protected and tax-efficient for her family’s future?
(6:15) Danny owns two rental properties in his personal name that perform steadily but with modest returns. With a new limited company set up for his next investment, he's wondering, should he keep them or sell and reinvest through the company?
Links:
Watch our YouTube video “Accountant Explains How To Pay 0% Property Tax (Legally)” here.
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There are currently 2.86 million ‘legacy landlords’ in the UK – yes, you heard that right. But as the world of property investment continues to evolve, is their time up? Let’s find out as Rob & Rob discuss what’s behind the shift and what it means for these landlords.
(0:56) News story of the week.
(4:16) Why are legacy landlords under attack?
(6:25) The reason the old model is now broken.
(9:15) The modern strategy to property investment.
(13:15) What to do if you’re a legacy landlord?
(15:45) Key takeaways
(17:55) Hub Extra
Links mentioned:
Housebuilding not economically viable in half of England, warns Zoopla
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Happy Tuesday! It’s time for another great episode of Ask Rob & Rob.
(0:45) After buying his first buy-to-let, Simon’s debating whether to use a letting agent or self-manage the property. He asks Rob & Rob for advice on which approach makes more sense for a growing portfolio.
(3:40) Aisling lives in Australia and owns two UK buy-to-lets, both with mortgage renewals coming up. She’s keen to release equity and continue investing, but high rates are holding her back. She turns to Rob & Rob for advice on navigating mortgages and selling the “problem” property.
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In this month’s market update, Rob & Rob break down the latest data to uncover surprising regional differences in house prices and rental growth. Plus, they react to the headline-grabbing political proposals that could have big implications for landlords and investors alike.
(1:00) Kicking off this market update with house prices…
(6:05) Rents are up, but where and by how much?
(9:10) Is the government finally giving landlords a break?
(15:45) Hub Extra
Links mentioned:
House prices:
Zoopla house price index
Nationwide house price index
Prime London price slump makes it ripe for investment
Rent:
Private rent and house prices, UK: September 2025
Government:
Families to save hundreds of pounds in major homebuying overhaul
Councils to be given power to impose rent caps
Greens vote to abolish landlords at their party conference
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It’s Tuesday, so here’s your latest round of listener questions!
(0:47) James has three buy-to-let properties with product transfers due soon. He asks Rob & Rob if it’s worth delaying them until after the Budget to see if any tax changes might influence his decisions.
(3:03) Emma wants to expand her portfolio with additional properties through a limited company. With limited savings, she’s considering using equity from her mortgage-free home to fund future purchases, essentially “double mortgaging” her investments. She asks the guys whether this is too much leverage and how to get the balance right.
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Can property success really be boiled down to a formula? Rob & Rob know it can – it’s the approach they’ve used to build their business and their own portfolios. In this episode, they break it down: from leverage and inflation to buying smart and giving it time, they show how this formula delivers real results.
(1:02) News story of the week.
(3:20) What is the property investment formula?
(4:27) The ultimate wealth multiplier.
(9:02) The silent wealth builder.
(13:42) Give it time.
(15:34) The last piece of the magic formula.
(17:40) Examples of the formula in action.
(23:47) The extra edge.
(28:10) Hub Extra.
Links mentioned:
How transport influences house prices in three key UK cities
Invest Like The Best
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It’s time for your weekly dose of Ask Rob & Rob – let’s get stuck into some brilliant listener questions!
(0:34) Sean’s taking the first step in his property journey by turning his home into a rental and buying somewhere new to live. Unsure if he should keep the property in his personal name or put it in a limited company, and he asks Rob & Rob to help him decide.
(4:12) T from Dubai wants Rob & Rob’s take on investing in the South Wales Valleys. He’s seen lots of BRR deals advertised there, with strong rental demand. He's wondering whether it’s really a good area to invest for growth, and wants the guys’ opinion on the market and potential returns.
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Given the non-stop negativity you hear, it sounds like a crazy claim... but could now actually be the best buying opportunity in living memory?
Listen to Rob & Rob break down the data, and see if you agree with them that sentiment has become disconnected from reality...
(0:56) News story of the week.
(1:58) Let’s dive in…
(2:50) Rob & Rob prove their theory with the data.
(8:30) What if mortgage rates change?
(13:20) The Robs discuss negative sentiment.
(22:16) Hub Extra.
Links mentioned:
Bank of England predicted to not cut interest rate until 2026
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Another Tuesday, another Ask Rob & Rob – let’s hear what our listeners are asking this week.
(0:49) Natalie bought her first home during the COVID boom, when prices were inflated. She’s now planning a move to the Southwest and weighing whether to keep the property, rent it out, and release some equity to fund her new home. Or sell up, buy in the Southwest, and use the equity to invest in the North, where yields and growth prospects look stronger. She turns to Rob & Rob for advice on which strategy makes the most sense.
(4:30) Juliet is in the process of buying her third buy-to-let property and is considering purchasing a holiday let rather than a standard buy-to-let. With no prior experience in holiday-only rentals, she turns to Rob & Rob for their thoughts on the risks and potential benefits.
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Tax might not be everyone’s cup of tea… but when it comes to property investment, it’s one of the biggest factors that can make or break your returns.
In this episode, Rob & Rob sit down with tax expert Nadeem Raziq, who’s worked with hundreds of investors to navigate the complex world of tax.
From the classic limited company question, to inheritance tax, trusts, and even strategies for what could be coming down the line – nothing’s off the table in this jam-packed conversation.
(0:57) News story of the week
(3:30) Talking all things tax with our expert Nadeem
(4:08) Beginning with the age-old limited company
(27:07) Let’s learn more about inheritance tax
(31:28) What about trusts?
(37:58) Hub Extra
Links mentioned:
Bradford property market retains top hotspot crown
Nadeem’s company, Provestor
The unknown number
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It’s time for the latest edition of Ask Rob & Rob, so let’s dive right in!
(0:42) Danny started his property journey at the beginning of 2025, releasing equity from his home to fund his buy-to-let investments through a limited company. With mortgage fees of £4–6k each time, he asks Rob & Rob if he should be paying upfront or adding them to the loan.
(3:30) Will’s an aspiring investor with one buy-to-let and an unencumbered property he inherited. Eager to scale his portfolio quickly with BRR projects and auction buys, he’s torn between using costly bridging finance or refinancing the inherited property to release equity and fund deals with cash. He turns to Rob & Rob for their advice for which route makes more sense.
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The property world is in uproar with rumours of new tax changes. Headlines and speculation are everywhere, but what’s really going on? Tune in as Rob & Rob share what you actually need to know, and most importantly, explain what it could mean for investors.
Watch Rob D’s brand new YouTube video for a deeper dive into the government’s latest updates.
(0:47) The latest news for house prices.
(7:05) Does the rental market continue to grow?
(9:30) News from the House of Commons.
(18:33) What on earth is happening with the Renters Rights Bill?
(18:22) Hub Extra.
Links mentioned:
House Prices:
Annual house price growth softens in August
Halifax house price index
Rightmove house price index
London house prices to outperform rest of UK
Rental Market:
Private rent and house prices
Rental market holds firm as stock levels climb despite Renters’ Rights Bill concerns
Government:
Landlords could face tax on rental income in budget
Reeves considers replacing stamp duty with new property tax
Reeves leaves no stone unturned as she mulls reforms for property tax
Reed becomes new housing secretary after Rayner exit
Renters Rights Bill:
Renters’ Rights Bill is back in Parliament as finish line approaches
Other:
Alex Hormozi
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Happy Tuesday! It’s time for Rob & Rob to answer two more great questions from our listeners!
(0:49) Toff’s a high-rate taxpayer with a well-performing buy-to-let in his personal name. He’s now looking to buy his own home but faces higher stamp duty that’ll add at least £10,000 to the cost. Weighing up whether to sell the rental and lose a good investment, move it into a limited company, or just accept the extra bill – he asks Rob & Rob if there’s a smarter move he’s missing.
(3:42) Jane’s living in Hong Kong and preparing to return to the UK after 15 years as an expat. With £300k to invest, she wants to build a portfolio that provides enough income to work part-time. Her current student HMO has worked well and she’s wondering if she should use the pot to buy four more student houses for cash flow.
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A top wealth firm says buy-to-let has had its day - but is that really true? We dig into the data, uncover what they missed, and reveal why property might be stronger than ever if you know how to play it.
(0:46) News story of the week.
(3:07) We’re recruiting! Check out our job roles.
(4:21) Property is officially dead?
(5.53) The Robs analyse their findings.
(7:49) Don’t ignore the power of leverage!
(9:54) London is underperforming – true or false?
(11:23) Steady growth isn’t sexy.
(14:24) Can a typical buyer even afford a house?
(18:09) Government vs. Landlords.
(21:40) Be mindful of where information is coming from!
(23:07) Hub Extra
Links mentioned
https://www.thetimes.com/uk/politics/article/landlords-national-insurance-tax-rental-income-xr085xd6s
www.propertyhub.net/jobs
https://www.rathbones.com/en-gb/wealth-management/media-centre/news-and-comment/research-shows-golden-age-of-uk-property-investment-is-over
https://www.whatsapp.com/
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It’s time for your weekly dose of Ask Rob & Rob, so let’s get stuck into some interesting listener questions...
(0:39) Should Bon pursue a HMO in a less desirable area if the numbers stack up? A major new housing development nearby could improve things – but is it worth the risk, or is location too important to gamble on? Rob and Rob give their thoughts.
(4:36) Sara has £50k to start her property investing journey and is unsure where to begin. Buying a low-cost flat outright isn’t advisable in this scenario, but can Rob & Rob sway her to use a mortgage to unlock better growth opportunities?
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would love to get rid of Stamp Duty. only problem with replacing it with property tax is that it is fair in the people who have bought a proper and already paid stamp duty. May have to phase it in, limit the property tax to only people that have lived in that house for over X amount of years to start with
Absolutely loving the insights shared on The Property Podcast — it’s always refreshing to hear grounded takes on market trends. For those who are diving deeper into Florida’s real estate data, especially recent valuations and ownership history, this resource on https://browardcountypropertyappraiser.org/ might be worth a look. Helps give a broader context to what’s being discussed here.
That sounds like a great listen for anyone diving into the property market! For those exploring U.S. opportunities, especially in Florida, you might also want to check out this helpful Florida land value resource: http://hillsboroughcountypropertyappraiser.org/. It offers updated insights that can support smarter investment decisions across counties.
Really enjoyed this episode! As someone in the property maintenance space in Australia, I can say that regular upkeep is just as important as location when it comes to long-term ROI. We’ve worked with investors who saved thousands by addressing repairs early — things like roof leaks, damaged gyprock, or old tiling. If you're looking for trusted help with property upkeep, we offer these services at https://allareasmaintenance.com.au/ Great insights as always!
Loved the deep dive into market trends! Renovations and small repairs still play a huge part in value-add strategies. We’ve helped landlords enhance rental appeal with services like carpentry, painting, and cabinet upgrades. You can see more on our site here: https://allareasmaintenance.com.au/ Keep the great content coming — it's really helpful!
Hi guys, love the podcast. I have a small portfolio of just 3 properties but I'm close to retirement age. I listened to your End Game episode with interest and was intrigued by the option of drawing down from mortgages. But I was unclear as to how I personally get to take advantage of the drawn down cash; isn't this 'extra' cash stuck in the company? Many thanks for all your effort on the podcast, long may they continue. Cheers, Steve
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interesting podcast - thanks!
interesting! but if course the news broke about a week BEFORE this episode that the UK economy officially went into recession in Q4 2023...
surely it's more likely "Mo" means "blocks of flats" - e.g. a house converted 2 or 3 flats, rather than a whole block of 7 or 10 or 30 flats like you'd find in e.g. a new build..?
Disagree with your BOE call. The deep recession prediction was an inflation fighting tool. They can't raise rates as high as they would like, so they tried to dent confidence and reduce spending via a deep recession call. Now they say no recession, my guess is they are worried about recession and maybe even deflation, and so now are trying to inject confidence into the market. If this confidence trick doesn't work they will have to cut rates and start printing again. Thanks for the great podcast!
Real estate has become a popular investment vehicle over the last 50 years or so. Here's https://www.fittra.co.uk/property-investment/ a look at some of the leading options for individual investors, along with the reasons to invest. Real estate is considered to be its own asset class and one that should be at least a part of a well-diversified portfolio. One of the key ways investors can make money in real estate is to become a landlord of a rental property.
When you think about real estate investing, the first thing that probably comes to mind is your home. Of course, real estate investors have lots of other options when it comes to choosing investments, and they're not all physical properties.
i know you talk about magic sauce which is that property prices/ rent increaces with inflation but the money you owe staying the same as you take out a mortgage and the price is fixed at that therefore the debts value decreases. doesn't interest rates on your mortgage and the fact that your mortgage changes over time mean that the money you owe goes up with inflation?
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hi guys. I currently own a flat rented out for 3 years I am currently living in it but now looking to buy and refurbish a new property looking at houses. I have significant equity in the flat but buying the next property will cost alot in stamp duty as a second property owner. do I keep the flat and rent and still buy the house or sell the flat and buy the house refurb and move on again? thanks
Where are the show notes they speak of?
Thanks a lot for this episode, guys! 🙌🏼 Are there any books/links you can recommend on property cycles? Cheers, Alex
Start of my Property Investment Journey! Just listen to first Podcast , got a few to go! 🙈I feel like this is what If been looking for . Really felt like it was on the same wavelength.
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