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Two perspectives; one sport. Unfiltered conversations about the equestrian world.
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Send us a text Join hosts Karen and Jen in this insightful episode as they dive into the world of catch riding, working students, and the dynamics of working off riding lessons in equestrian sports. They explore the nuances of these important topics, shedding light on the challenges and opportunities available for young riders and their families. - **Young Riders:** Karen and Jen discuss the realities of very young children and the physical demands of working off riding lessons. They highlig...
Send us a text Join hosts Jen, a lifelong equestrian professional and rider, and Karen, a dedicated parent of an equestrian trained by Jen, as they dive into an essential conversation about accessibility in horse sports. In this episode, Jen presents a **five-prong plan** designed to open the doors of equestrian sports to new riders without the immediate pressure of purchasing or leasing a horse. Jen breaks down each point of their plan, focusing on the importance of preserving lesson barns,...
Send us a text Karen and Jen discuss the USHJA Trainer Certification Program and explore why it hasn't gained traction. They delve into the reluctance of well-known equestrian professionals to embrace the certification and suggest ways to encourage lifelong professionals to take the certification test and lead live teaching sessions. Karen, who is both a certified personal trainer and a certified athletic trainer, highlights the fact that these professions require not only certificati...
Send us a text Join Karen and Jen as they dive into the complexities of balancing client needs with the demands of life on the road. In this insightful episode, they explore the challenges faced by busy trainers who are frequently away at horse shows, leaving some clients behind. What happens when a trainer can't be there for every lesson? Should they find a substitute instructor to step in, and if so, how should pricing be handled? Jen and Karen discuss the expectations of clients lef...
Send us a text Before they get to the episode Karen and Jen begin with a hilarious exchange about a potential guest; Xavier Legette, horse lover, wide receiver for the Carolina Panthers Football team and former South Carolina Gamecock. X, have your people call our people! Now on to the show… Building on their previous discussion about the tensions between equestrian professionals and amateur clients, Karen and Jen shift the focus to the positive aspects that unite them. Listen in as th...
Send us a text In this thought-provoking episode, hosts Jen, a seasoned horse trainer and rider, and Karen, a devoted horse show parent and former client of Jen's, delve into the complex relationship between professional horse people and their amateur clients. They tackle the often contentious divide that exists in the equestrian world, exploring the feelings of elitism that some professionals exude and the frustrations that arise from clients feeling sidelined in their horse’s training and c...
Send us a text In this powerful episode, Jen and Karen sit down with Andrew Ellis, an equestrian known for his roles as a horse show manager, announcer, and starter. Andrew shares his gripping story of resilience and recovery following a devastating riding accident at the age of 13 that not only changed the course of his life but also set him on a path of addiction. As Andrew recounts his journey, he opens up about how the accident led to a long hospital stay and the emotional turmoil that f...
Send us a text Join Karen and Jen for an insightful episode that dives deep into the world of horse sales. With Jen drawing on her experience in selling and buying horses as well as opinions collected from other trainers, she sheds light on the common pitfalls and unprofessional behaviors that potential buyers often exhibit--like "kicking tires,' failing to follow up after a trial, or riding a horse for too long despite knowing it's not the right fit. Karen, bringing her perspective as ...
Send us a text In this thought-provoking episode, Jen and Karen dive deep into the whirlwind of controversy sparked by Jen's recent statements. Last week, Jen suggested that trainers should have a say in their riders' attire for the show ring and the social media images they share. The commentary ignited a firestorm of reactions from listeners, many voicing concerns that Jen's views may contribute to the already overwhelming pressure to present a perfect image in the equestrian world. U...
Send us a text Karen and Jen discuss the often overlooked role of clients in shaping a barn's brand. They explore the intricate relationship between branding and client expectations, from the necessity of custom tack trunks and horse clothes, to the financial contributions for horse show exhibitors parties. Tune in to hear how a rider's attire in the show ring not only reflects personal style but also serves as a visual extension of the barns brand. The conversation highlights the impor...
Send us a text In this enlightening episode Jen and Karen welcome a special guest; Luke Tanner, Karen's son. As one of the few boys in a sport traditionally dominated by females at the amateur level, Luke shares his unique perspective on the equestrian community. Join the conversation as they explore Luke's experiences competing in horse shows, where he enjoyed a warm reception free from typical body comparisons and mean-spirited rivalry. Luke found himself frequently recognized with sportsma...
Send us a text When you think NCEA/NCAA Equestrian, powerhouse teams such as Georgia, SMU, Auburn and the University of South Carolina probably spring to mind. But it was actually the College of Charleston that brought an NCEA Trophy back to South Carolina in 2025. Led by Head Coach, Natasha "Tash" Vitkovic, and Assistant Coach, Hope King, the Cougars clenched the NCEA Single Discipline National Championship Runner Up Title. Single discipline teams compete in just NCEA Jumping Seat and ...
Send us a text In this episode, Karen and Jen tackle the contentious issue of class limits within USEF Hunter Jumper competitions. The hosts reference articles from The Plaid Horse Magazine by Robin Greenwood and Nina Thornton, and draw on their own experiences. As the hosts explore the pros and cons of class limits, the conversation flows into multiple scenarios that demonstrate just how complex this issue is. They discuss everything from accessibility, enforcement issues, and of cours...
Send us a text Certified Athletic Trainer, Tamara Harris discusses her role with The University of South Carolina Equestrian Team--from treating minor pains and strains and mixing the Gatorade "just right," to handling 911 calls in the event of an emergency. Tamara also offers up advice on what barns should include in their own emergency plans, and the medical supplies that no barn should be without. Support the show
Send us a text Karen's son hopes to Door Dash his way to his first horse purchase--and he's considering importing--impossible right?! Well maybe not. Sure, its going to take A LOT of "Dashing," but importing horses isn't reserved for the super rich. In this episode, Karen has lots of questions for Jen on her experience traveling to Europe to try horses, importing horses off of videos and so much more. Get ready for real talk about the pitfalls and the upsides of importing in the five figure p...
Send us a text Karen and Jen, a dedicated horse show parent and a seasoned horse trainer, dive into some of the the crucial aspects of purchasing a horse. They explore the importance of enlisting professional help when making such an significant investment, discussing how expert guidance can prevent costly mistakes that often arise from online purchases or amatuer decisions. Support the show
Send us a text From the fine art of cheering to the delicate balance of arrival times, Karen and Jen dissect some of the often unwritten rules of horse show etiquette. Discover why parents should steer clear of the in gate and the importance of timing when it comes to morning barn chores. From their two different perspectives, Karen and Jen explore the reasons behind these practices—are they all about safety, or is there a bit of trainer power play at work? Whether you're a ride...
Send us a text In a few short weeks, young riders and diminutive equines from all over the country will flock to Lexington, Kentucky for one of the most anticipated events of the year; USEF Pony Finals. Stepping into the Walnut Ring is the culmination of months, maybe even years of preparation and hard work. For some riders, Pony Finals is the start of an illustrious equestrian career (think Lillie Keenan). For others, Pony Finals is the first and last opportunity to compete on a grand,...
Send us a text The Baran Global Hunter Classic is an event like no other and Liza Towell Boyd has put together a team like no other! Liza, along with her daughter Elle Boyd, and her brother Hardin Towell, are traveling to Valkendwaard, Netherlands, to take on six other teams in a Nations Cup style competition that includes an under saddle, a classic hunter round and a handy hunter round. After three days of competition, from July 11-13, 2025, the winning team will walk away with their share o...
Send us a text Karen and Jen are on location in Raeford NC for the NCHJA Annual Horse Show and tracked down the legendary pony trainer, Robin Greenwood. If you're a pony rider who wants to move to the front of the model, put this episode at the top of your playlist. Robin gave us tips on turn out, bridle fit and more. Dual discipline pony rider, Brynn Garrett gave us a pony finals preview and explained some of the differences between her hunter ponies and her hackney ponies. And we caught up ...
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