The Woodpreneur Podcast

Hey everyone, this week it's just family, Steve, and Jake from @ollogginepoxy on the podcast. Let's talk networking! Make sure you follow The Woodpreneur Podcast anywhere you get podcasts, so you don't miss an episode!

Collaboration For An Ever-Evolving Product FT. Ryan Cochrane | Cochrane Kayak "I wasn't a good athlete because I was a talented athlete. I was a good athlete because I put everything into that. Exactly that. And I focused on it." Ryan Cochrane Welcome back to a brand new episode of the Epoxy Business Podcast. Today your hosts, Steve Larosiliere and Jake Latvala, sit down with Ryan Cochrane. Ryan is a former Olympian, a Woodpreneur Podcast alumni, a good friend of Jake and Steve's, and this past year has become an essential partner with Ol Loggin Epoxy. "Epoxy is something that I used before but in a different way, because I was using it more in kayaks because I was as a kayaker as an athlete. So it was more for boat-building processes and things like that. But I watched many people make these river tables and do stuff like that, which made me want to see if I could do that.  Alan, a friend of ours, reached out to me on Instagram and said, 'Hey, do you want some product?' I said, 'Yeah, I'd love to give it a go.' I worked with epoxy a little bit when I started working for the company I'm currently working for, which I ended up buying into with some partners. It all just snowballed from there.  My style is that if I do something, I do it. There's no halfway; I'm going to go all into it. I'm going to figure everything out, and I'm going to learn everything about that product and everything I can do with that product. So it became an obsession, and from there, it kept rolling. I mean, it's been years now, and it feels like it was yesterday." Ryan Cochrane Read More

Now That’s Social Media Marketing Ft. Alex from Backyard Resin “Just trying to optimize everything step by step and trying to get better. That’s where we’re at now.” Alex from Backyard Resin Welcome to a brand new episode of the Epoxy Business Podcast. Today, your hosts, Steve Larosiliere and Jake Latvala, sit down with Alex from Backyard Resin. Alex has made his mark with incredible videos of phenomenally eye-catching pieces. His epoxy tables have inspired his hundreds of thousands of followers, and all it takes is one look to see why. “This whole thing started as pretty much everybody starts their hobby. I worked in sales and had a great career, and I decided I wanted to make things with my hands. I saw the epoxy tables, which I thought were really interesting. So I decided to make one, and I loved it. Then I made one for my brother, my mom, and my grandma, and eventually, people said, ‘Hey, you’re pretty good at this. You should probably start selling.’  One of my friends also told me, ‘You should also make an Instagram account. I’m sure people would love to see the process and everything.’ I wasn’t very into social media, but I decided to go for it, and eventually, I saw that people started to follow. It was really nice to be able to show the process and show people how I did my stuff, and eventually, it just took on a life of its own.  When COVID hit, I saw an opportunity to say, ‘You know what, it’s now or never; I really like this. Let’s go full on.’ So I quit my career and literally worked from my shed at the back of my house. I was like, ‘if this doesn’t pan out, I can always be a salesman elsewhere. But I need to try this out.’ It turns out that it went super well, and now I’ve got an 8000 square foot shop and employees, and it just scaled it up fast.” Alex from Backyard Resin Read More

Learning the Tricks of the Epoxy Trade Ft. Arthur Santel “I started learning and developing my technique and that stuff by myself. And I really enjoy being able to chat with my guys, working on this project, working and collaborating with the clients.” Arthur Santel Welcome to a brand new episode of the Epoxy Business Podcast. Today, your hosts, Steve Larosiliere and Jake Latvala, sit down with Arthur Santel, owner of Art de Seve. Arthur started his business about two years ago. Before that, he worked with a company handling concrete and epoxy flooring until he found an opportunity to work with wood. “I decided to try different stuff with wood. I had no experience before, but I had a shop where I could do that. So basically, I just bought a piece of wood for the first time a year ago, and then I met Lab Surface and you guys, and then everything started.  So now I have three other associates, we’re based in Montreal, and we’re doing everything with epoxy, wood, and concrete, like furniture, tables, and that kind of stuff. It’s starting slowly, but it’s growing slowly and steadily.” Arthur Santel Read More

Building an Epoxy Business Community Ft. Kevin Patanella Welcome back to a brand new episode of the Epoxy Business Podcast. Today your hosts, Steve and Jake, sit down with Kevin Patanella, an epoxy artist, ambassador, and friend to Ol Loggin Epoxy.  “Like many, I feel like I got pushed into starting something because of COVID. I was working in masonry as a laborer, and we were put on hold for six months, and that’s before they began to help everyone out.  My father is a framer, so I grew up with tools, but I didn’t really have the attention span to start a house and frame it out, and I wanted to do little projects and knock them out quickly. So, I started with his old tools, a table saw, a circular saw, a belt sander, and an orbital. That’s all I had.” Kevin Patanella The Draw of Epoxy Every person who works with epoxy, whether they focus on river tables, artwork, or anything in between, is drawn to the material for a reason. Sometimes it’s the durability, the inherent creativity, or some other factor that draws a person in. In Kevin’s case, it was a little bit of everything. “So, I was a chef for a while and was in the kitchen for probably close to 18 years. Executive Chef or Sous Chef for the past five, going between restaurants. I’m not with my daughter’s mother, but I was getting her on weekends, and as anyone that’s ever worked in that business knows, you can’t say, ‘Oh, I want Saturdays and Sundays off.’ So I had to make a choice.  Luckily my father owns his own company, so in between finding what would be next, which I do a lot of times, I’ll work for him for a while. And then you know, go on to the new job. But having the server drop off a plate that looks like it costs $300, and the people are ecstatic. It’s the same thing when you ship out a new table or a new board or something; just to see the reactions is worth it. But I mean, obviously, I’ve got to make money too.” Kevin Patanella Instagram: @kp_rusticdesign Read More

“I still have years of work still available to me. But I'm looking to change this hat to a crown and be the king of casting.” Alan Nicholson Hello and welcome to a new episode of the Epoxy Business Podcast. Today, your hosts, Steve Larosiliere and Jake Latvala, sit down with Alan Nicholson. “It all started about seven years ago for me. I was in the cleaning business before, and it was the cleaning business that brought me into the epoxy industry. Some of the school districts were requesting certain jobs to be done and asked if there were certain things that I could do. So it was thanks to the school district that I got into the epoxy business. After being in the cleaning industry for 25 years, I specialized in tile and grout restoration. They asked if I could restore those famous Bradley sinks in the school washrooms. The circular one where you turn it on with your foot. In figuring out how to restore it, I used epoxy, ground it all down, and then re-covered the entire thing with epoxy. So that’s how it all started.” Alan Nicholson Ps. Since recording Alan is no longer with Lab Surface Read More

Two to Canada, our Trip to Lab Surface and Formula 1 Ft. Jake and Steve   "Not many people know Lab Surface because they're a flooring manufacturer, and they're just now getting into the casting world, and they're putting 100% faith into us that we're going to take the casting world to the next level." Jake Latvala   Welcome to a brand new episode of The Epoxy Business Podcast. Today, your host Steve Larosiliere and Jake Latvala sit down together and talk about their trip to Montreal to visit Lab Surface. Although the trip was based on building relationships and getting work done, they had the opportunity to check out a Formula 1 race while there. Check out the episode to hear all the stories of their adventure up north! Read More

Building Brand Recognition with David Pingrenon   “I’ve got three really cool tables I’m about to pour. One is a Viking table, and I ordered a full-size Damascus ax, a shield, a drinking horn, and some bone runes and stuff that will all go in the table.”  -David Pingrenon   Welcome to a brand new episode of The Epoxy Business Podcast. Today, your hosts, Steve Larosiliere and Jake Latvala sit down with David Pingrenon from Rotten Stump Creations, based out of British Columbia. David is an Ol Loggin Epoxy distributor and one of the relatively few Canadian representatives on the West Coast.   “I just got sick of doing the day job and was looking for something to do. I’ve always liked making stuff artistically with my hands, and I like stuff that comes from the art side of your brain, writing poems, playing guitar, things like that. It’s just not blue-collar work.    So I had a friend of mine, he’s on Instagram as well, and I saw he was making tables, and I thought it was cool. The first table that came out was just this awesome swirl of brown and gold. I’m not even a fan of those two colors, but together they made this great scene with the wood in the backdrop, and I went, ‘Oh, I wonder how hard that is.’    I just looked into it and asked him a bunch of questions. I’ve done a lot of woodworking in my life, so I just thought, ‘Hey, you know what, I’m just gonna try this out.’ So I grabbed the hardest table I could think of, which was a solid color with a clear on top, and I figured if I could make the hardest table work, I could probably do this. They came out looking really nice, and I just haven’t stopped since then.”  -David Pingrenon Read More

Jake & Steve What We’ve Learned in 1 Year Welcome to a brand new episode of the Epoxy Business Podcast. Today your hosts, Steve Larosiliere and Jake Latvala, sit down together to talk about a momentous occasion. It’s the one-year anniversary of Ol Loggin Epoxy! Although the actual Ol Loggin Epoxy product didn’t launch until July of 2021, Jake and Steve became business partners one year ago today. They started the process of their partnership agreement in January of 2021, and much of the time spent was working on agreement details and going through the process of finding the right partner in Lab Surface. Building a partnership takes time, trust, and a willingness to collaborate and communicate. However, establishing an official business partnership involves many more agreements than people may be aware of. Check out this episode to learn the ins and outs of building a collaborative business and all the steps that go into it! Proudest Moments “What we did last year is we’ve created quite a community. I think we did a pretty good job of recruiting a team, and if you look at our posts or our webpage, we’re getting tagged all over the place.  What I love the most is going to forums where you people ask, ‘What’s your go-to epoxy?’ I see more and more Ol Loggin Epoxy on those forums. I think that’s one of our greatest accomplishments so far, and it’s just the beginning.” -Jake Latvala Read More

Taking Quality and Collaboration Seriously Ft: Jonathan Gagnon   “I’m driven by growth, technology, and new products. I’m a former banker, but I have a strong interest in technology and R&D.”   Jonathan Gagnon   Welcome back to a new episode of the Epoxy Business Podcast with your hosts, Steve Larosiliere and Jake Latvala. Today, Steve and Jake sit down with Jonathan Gagnon, president of Lab Surface, and partner in creating Ol Loggin Epoxy.    Jonathan and Lab Surface fill a critical position in helping the development of Ol Loggin Epoxy. While Steve and Jake are experts in marketing and woodworking, they are not chemists, and to create a quality product like Ol Loggin Epoxy; it is vital to have experts on every front.   Check out this new episode to learn about changing industries, growing a business from the ground up, embracing technology, and much more.  Read More:

A Grassroots Epoxy Business Ft. Brad Williams “Hamilton Lee Supply started from Hamilton Lee Designs, one led to another. Hamilton is my youngest son’s first name, and Lee is my eldest son’s middle name. So I wanted to keep it in the family.” Brad Williams Welcome to a brand new episode of the Epoxy Business Podcast. Today, your hosts, Steve Larosiliere and Jake Latvala, sit down with Brad Williams from Hamilton Lee Supply. Brad got started on his woodworking journey when a tree fell in his backyard, and he wanted to do some work with it. “This was back in 2017. The network wasn’t as prominent as it is now, with social media and sawmill operations everywhere. So I got a sawmill, and as a custom home builder, I was taking four to six trees off of every demo lot we’re doing. Before long, I had 30 to 40 trees. So started with a sawmill, moved on to epoxy, and just dovetailed from making into supply and working with customers.” Brad Williams Read More

Welcome to the first episode of The Epoxy Business Podcast, hosted by Steve Larosiliere and Jake Latvala. Steve and Jake run Ol Loggin Epoxy, one of the best premier epoxy brands for woodworkers by woodworkers, and they wanted to create a show to help document the building of this brand. Together, they are doing something that no one else is doing, and they want to invite you along for the journey.   Steve runs the Woodpreneur Podcast and a marketing agency called Acres of Timber alongside the Acres CRM, which is software for woodworking businesses. He works with many big brands and with Woodpreneurs of all sizes to help grow their sales and marketing.  Jake Latvala owns Ol Loggin Sawmill, teaches people how to build epoxy tables and serving trays, and he does it all with urban lumber. He and his company process the lumber from tree to table and work heavily with epoxy as well. Read More

In this episode of the Woodpreneur Podcast, host Steve Larosiliere interviews Dan Sullivan, the founder of Navillus Woodworks. Dan shares his journey from starting a remodelling business to transitioning into custom fabrication and woodworking. He discusses the importance of building a strong team, the challenges of marketing in a competitive landscape, and the artistry involved in creating custom furniture. The conversation also covers daily operations, management strategies, and navigating the furniture market, offering valuable insights for aspiring woodworkers and business owners. Takeaways Navillus Woodworks focuses on custom fabrication and millwork, blending artistic influences with practical design. Building a trusted team and securing strong client relationships have been key to Dan Sullivan's success. Effective marketing and compelling designs help Navillus stand out in a competitive furniture market. Organic growth and collaboration with artists enhance both project quality and business reach. Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Navillus Woodworks 01:49 The Journey of Dan Sullivan 05:49 Transitioning to Custom Fabrication 09:46 Building a Team and Infrastructure 14:13 Artistry in Woodworking 18:11 Marketing Strategies and Challenges 21:59 Daily Operations and Management 25:49 Navigating the Furniture Market 30:01 Future Directions and Opportunities Get a FREE Trial to our Woodpreneur Network Community and get the skills, network, and mentoring to level up your business join here: https://woodpreneurnetwork.com/ Connect with Dan at: https://www.instagram.com/navillus_woodworks/?hl=en

In this episode of the Woodpreneur Podcast, host Steve Larosiliere speaks with Garrett Magnuson from Raw Heartwood, a log-to-table woodworking company. Garrett shares his journey into woodworking, the challenges he faced in the early years of his business, and how he found his passion for creating beautiful wood products. The conversation explores the daily operations of Raw Heartwood, the importance of mentorship, and the lessons Garrett has learned throughout his entrepreneurial journey. They also discuss marketing strategies, community engagement, and future growth opportunities for the business. Takeaways: Raw Heartwood processes wood from logs to finished pieces.Garrett transitioned to woodworking after working as a park foreman.Woodworking is challenging but fulfilling.Garrett’s passion lies in transforming raw wood into art.He enjoys every part of the business, from milling to epoxy tables.COVID-19 created early business challenges.Community engagement is key to Raw Heartwood’s success.Mentorship has been crucial to Garrett’s growth.Marketing should focus on local outreach and community ties.Key lessons include problem-solving and adaptability. Chapters: 00:00 Introduction to Raw Heartwood03:02 The Journey into Woodworking06:00 Finding Passion in Woodworking09:01 The Growth of Raw Heartwood12:13 Daily Operations and Community Engagement14:56 Mentorship and Learning18:01 Marketing Strategies and Community Building21:03 Lessons Learned in Business23:58 Future Growth and Scaling Opportunities Get a FREE Trial to our Woodpreneur Network Community and get the skills, network, and mentoring to level up your business join here: https://woodpreneurnetwork.com/ Connect with Garrett at: https://www.instagram.com/raw_heartwood/

In this episode of the Woodpreneur Podcast, host Steve Larosiliere interviews Cody Powers from Cap Artistry, who shares his inspiring journey from working in a hospital to becoming a successful furniture maker. Cody discusses his challenges, the importance of networking, and the breakthroughs that have driven his business growth. He emphasizes the value of community support and the mindset shifts that have propelled him forward. Cody also outlines his future goals and offers advice for aspiring entrepreneurs looking to make their mark in the woodworking industry. Takeaways: Cody transitioned from a hospital job to woodworking, finding initial success on Etsy.Networking and community support were crucial to his growth.Embracing vulnerability and self-belief helped drive his business forward.Cody aims to establish a recognized American-made, tree-to-table furniture brand. Chapters: 00:00 - Introduction to Cody Powers and His Journey02:39 - Overcoming Challenges and Building Confidence06:05 - The Impact of Networking and Community Support09:54 - Significant Breakthroughs in Business14:40 - Future Goals and Aspirations17:59 - Advice for Aspiring Entrepreneurs Get a FREE Trial to our Woodpreneur Network Community and get the skills, network, and mentoring to level up your business join here: https://woodpreneurnetwork.com/ Connect with Cody at: https://www.instagram.com/capsartistry/

In this episode of the Woodpreneur Podcast, host Steve Larosiliere speaks with Austin Waldo about the Texas Woodworking Festival, its origins, growth, and the vibrant community it fosters. Austin shares insights into what attendees can expect, the festival’s target audience, and the importance of community in woodworking. He discusses new features for the festival, including digital ticketing and educational sessions, as well as trends in the woodworking industry, particularly the integration of technology. The conversation concludes with details about the upcoming event and an invitation for woodworking enthusiasts to connect and participate. Takeaways: The Texas Woodworking Festival started as a community event.Austin runs a woodworking club and a school.The festival has doubled in attendance each year.Expect hands-on experiences and tool demonstrations.The festival caters to hobbyists and small professionals.Community building is a key focus of the festival.New digital features will enhance accessibility.Technology is increasingly integrated into woodworking.Future plans include more classes and events.The festival aims to be a reunion for woodworking friends. Chapters: 00:00 Introduction to the Texas Woodworking Festival 02:44 Festival Growth and Community Impact 05:11 What to Expect at the Festival 06:55 Target Audience and Community Building 08:06 Personal Insights and Experiences 09:10 New Features and Digital Expansion 10:54 Trends in Woodworking and Technology 12:11 Future Aspirations for the Festival 14:01 Event Details and Closing Remarks Get a FREE Trial to our Woodpreneur Network Community and get the skills, network, and mentoring to level up your business join here: https://woodpreneurnetwork.com/ Connect with Austin at: https://www.instagram.com/texaswoodworkingfestival/

In this episode, Steve Larosiliere interviews Janice, also known as The Knotty Contessa, about her journey from broadcasting to woodworking and how it has positively impacted her mental health. What began as a hobby during the COVID-19 pandemic quickly evolved into a thriving business. Janice now runs a storefront and workshop, where she creates custom wood products and offers on-site engraving services. One of the key factors in her business growth has been word of mouth, but Janice is also eager to expand her digital marketing efforts. Her top-selling products include cribbage boards, charcuterie boards, welcome signs, and engraved Yeti cups. She also shares the lessons she’s learned as an entrepreneur—most notably, the importance of staying open to change and growth. Janice discusses her decision to use CanCam equipment in her shop and the learning curve that came with it. She’s also added laser engraving to her services, which has opened new business opportunities, especially with corporate clients. In the latter part of the episode, the conversation shifts to marketing strategies for reaching more corporate customers. Steve suggests creating corporate branding packages and targeting industries like mortgage and healthcare. He also recommends networking through the Chamber of Commerce and offering special deals to local businesses to build relationships and drive sales. Key Takeaways: Woodworking can have a calming and fulfilling effect on mental health.Word of mouth is a powerful marketing tool for small businesses.Being flexible and open to change is crucial for entrepreneurial success.Offering custom products and on-site engraving can set a woodworking business apart.Expanding digital marketing can help attract a broader audience.Choosing the right equipment, like CanCam and Aeon lasers, can enhance productivity and service offerings.Adding laser engraving can create new business opportunities, especially with corporate clients.Creating corporate branding packages and targeting specific industries can help reach more corporate customers.Joining the Chamber of Commerce provides valuable networking opportunities and access to potential clients.Offering special deals to local businesses can generate interest and foster business relationships. Episode Chapters: 00:00 - Introduction and Background 00:50 - Woodworking as a Calming Hobby 02:55 - The Success of the "Welcome to Our Home" Sign 05:02 - Opening a Storefront and Workshop 09:47 - Word of Mouth Marketing and On-Site Engraving 19:39 - Top Sellers and Future Plans 22:09 - Choosing the Right Equipment 23:01 - Expanding Services with a Laser 30:22 - Reaching Corporate Customers 36:06 - Networking with the Chamber of Commerce 38:06 - Attracting Local Businesses Get a FREE Trial to our Woodpreneur Network Community and get the skills, network, and mentoring to level up your business join here: https://woodpreneurnetwork.com/ Connect with Janice at: https://www.instagram.com/theknottycontessa_/

In this episode, Steve Larosiliere interviews Joe Paonessa, who shares the backstory of EdgeCroft, a CNC and injection molding business located in Tennessee. The business began as an expansion of Joe's existing CNC business in Toronto. Joe discusses how he entered the field and the challenges he faced in financing and finding a building in a new country. He also talks about the business's growth and the opportunities explored, particularly in the boating industry. Joe offers marketing advice, suggesting partnerships with interior designers or social influencers to create a high-end outdoor collection. Takeaways: Edgecroft is a CNC and injection molding business in Tennessee, initially an expansion of Joe's Toronto-based CNC business. Joe faced challenges in financing and locating a building in a new country, ultimately securing one through seller financing. The business has grown by expanding its customer base and exploring opportunities in the boating industry. Joe recommends partnering with interior designers or social influencers to develop a high-end outdoor collection as a marketing strategy. Chapters: Introduction and Background of Edgecroft (00:00) Challenges and Growth in a New Country (03:12) Exploring Opportunities in the Boating Industry (05:52) Financing and Finding a Building (09:30) Overcoming Obstacles and Finding Seller Financing (11:30) Moving to a New Country and Starting from Scratch (14:36) Taking Risks and Finding Opportunities (18:47) Comparing the Cost of Living in Toronto and Tennessee (21:53) The Benefits of Taking a Chance and Reframing Your Environment (25:10) Dealing with Skepticism and Finding Success (26:07) Living in Flow and Embracing Serendipity (29:22) Marketing Strategy: Partnering for a High-End Outdoor Collection (32:02) Conclusion and Final Thoughts (33:57) Get a FREE Trial to our Woodpreneur Network Community and get the skills, network, and mentoring to level up your business join here: https://woodpreneurnetwork.com/ Connect with Joe at: https://edgecroft.com/index.html

In this episode, Steve Larosiliere interviews Joey Kochlacs of Santa Cruz Sustainable Sawmill. Joey shares his journey in the wood industry, from milling and selling raw wood to crafting high-end furniture and premium guitar tops. Recently, he took a significant step by forming an LLC to expand his business, bringing on new team members in the process. While he primarily markets his products through Instagram and word of mouth, Joey is now seeking strategies to attract high-end clients, especially in a challenging economy. Steve suggests focusing on brand building, creating a strong community, and targeting affluent individuals and high-end furniture makers. You can find more about Joey's work at kochlacswood.com. Key Takeaways: Joey Kochlacs has operated under the name Cokeless Wood for the past 10 years and recently established his LLC, Santa Cruz Sustainable Sawmill.He sources logs from tree services and property owners, milling them into high-end wood products, including furniture and guitar tops.While Instagram and word of mouth have been his primary marketing tools, Joey is exploring ways to attract high-end clients during slower economic times.Steve advises Joey to focus on building his brand, developing a community around it, and specifically targeting affluent individuals and high-end furniture makers to grow his business. Chapters: 00:00 Introduction and Background03:29 Marketing Strategies05:24 Popular Wood Species07:31 Current Marketing Channels11:38 New Members and Shop Space13:51 Strategies for Attracting High-End Clients Get a FREE Trial to our Woodpreneur Network Community and get the skills, network, and mentoring to level up your business join here: https://woodpreneurnetwork.com/ Connect with Joey at: https://www.instagram.com/joeykochlacs_furnituremaker/ https://www.instagram.com/santa_cruz_sustainable_sawmill/

In this episode, Steve Larosiliere interviews Jamie Stebenne, owner of JPS Construction and Design, as he shares the journey of starting and growing his construction business. Jamie discusses how he entered the industry, the niche he carved out in high-end residential projects, and the crucial role that design plays in his work. He also delves into the challenges of project management and the strategies his team employs to improve efficiency. Jamie provides insights on leadership development, effective client communication, and recognizing the early signs of a project going off track. Additionally, he highlights the importance of building strong relationships and leveraging word-of-mouth referrals to acquire new clients. Jamie also shares his future plans, which include expanding the business into property management and interior design. Takeaways Finding a niche in high-end residential projects can help sustain a construction business during economic downturns.Design is a crucial aspect of construction, and having a team with a background in architecture can set a company apart.Efficiency in project management can be improved through the use of technology and clear communication with clients.Word-of-mouth referrals and building relationships in the community are effective ways to attract new clients.Expanding into related businesses, such as property management and interior design, can provide additional revenue streams and support the core construction business. Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Background 02:00 Starting and Growing the Business 06:02 Improving Efficiency in Project Management 10:00 The Role of Design and Client Communication 14:18 Challenges and Signs of a Project Not Going Well 16:52 Acquiring New Clients and Projects 20:14 Expanding into Related Businesses 24:43 Current State of the Business 27:06 Leadership Development and Motivation 28:14 Advice for Starting Over and Marketing Strategies Get a FREE Trial to our Woodpreneur Network Community and get the skills, network, and mentoring to level up your business join here: https://woodpreneurnetwork.com/ Connect with Jamie at: https://www.instagram.com/jpsconstdesign/