This Working Life

You spend so much time on work, why accept the status quo, when there are ways to do it better? Get expert advice, research and hacks that will crush your inertia. Join Lisa Leong and other This Working Lifers as we experiment and explore the latest in the world of work.   We cover policy issues, like hybrid workplaces and remote work, employee wellbeing and organisational culture, the use of AI, employee surveillance, employee engagement, diversity and inclusion. We talk about progress on wider issues that relate to work, like work life balance, organisational change, restructures, and casualisation. On This Working Life our focus is on everything related to the people in a workplace too, including culture, individual experiences, performance management and career advice.  

How to optimise your holiday and start 2026 refreshed

Should you lie on the couch or go hiking with friends? Discover what to do before, during and after a holiday to get the most out of it.Experts share the best ways to fully recover from work stress and offer practical tips to make that post-holiday glow last longer.Guests: Stacey Parker, Associate Professor in the School of Psychology, University of Queensland   Ty Ferguson, Research Fellow in the Alliance for Research in Exercise, Nutrition and Activity (ARENA) research centre at the University of South Australia Greg Stark, Director, Better BeingFor a copy of the recovery resources mentioned in this story, email us at thisworkinglife@abc.net.au

12-05
25:16

A non-compete clause ban is coming. What does it mean for you?

Almost half of Australian workers are impacted by some kind of post-employment restraint. The government plans to ban non-compete clauses for middle and lower paid workers. But how do you strike the balance between an employee’s right to move jobs and a business’ right to protect their commercial interests? Guests:Paula McDonald, Professor of Work and Organisation, QUT Centre for Decent Work and Industry Charles Cameron, CEO Recruitment Consulting and Staffing Association of Australia and New Zealand (RCSA) 

11-28
25:07

Is your lack of people skills holding you back?

If your career progression has stalled it may be because you lack emotional intelligence and the ability to regulate your behaviour in the workplace. A Harvard Business School expert says the key to great leadership is understanding yourself so you can manage others, and she’s helped thousands of people do it.  Guest:Margaret C Andrews, managing director The MYLO Center,  author of Manage Yourself to Lead Others For a copy of Margaret’s Six questions for Self Understanding Worksheet, email us at thisworkinglife@abc.net.au

11-21
25:07

Transfer, recall, repetition: what helps you learn at work

What are the best ways to learn at work, and how can you make that new information stick?Understand the science of learning and how online courses and workshops can be designed to optimise motivation and opportunities to practise.Guests: Michelle Ockers, Founder and Chief Learning Strategist, Learning Uncut Ryan Jesson, cognitive scientist, School of Psychology, University of Queensland 

11-14
27:16

Are you on the path to burnout? These are the red flags...

New research has uncovered early warning signs of burnout that could help you get on top of it, before it goes too far. Learn strategies to identify these signs, recover from work stress and prevent burnout. Dr Ben Searle, organisational psychologist, consultant and researcher Luke Martin, Senior specialist and clinical spokesperson, Beyond Blue For more details on Ben’s Recovember Challenge follow him on LinkedIn or visit his websiteIf you or someone you know needs mental health support, call Beyond Blue for free 24/7 on 1300 22 4636 or via email or webchat at www.beyondblue.org.au/getsupportYou might like to check out our episode The Burnout Shop featuring pioneer of burnout theory, Christina Maslach.

11-07
25:07

Westpac work from home decision: what does it mean for you?

A Westpac employee with parental responsibilities was recently awarded the right to work from home five days a week, by the Fair Work Commission.How might this decision affect business hiring practices, and the working conditions parents are allowed by their bosses in future? Guests:Dr Giuseppe Carabetta, Associate Professor of workplace and business law with the UTS Business School Emma Walsh, CEO Parents at Work  For more information and free resources for small organisations visit https://familyfriendlyworkplaces.com/

10-31
25:07

How to fix loneliness at work

Have you ever turned up to work and thought...where is everyone?! Empty offices and flexible work is part of the reason why so many people are experiencing work loneliness, but it's not the whole picture.We explore how organisations can diagnose work loneliness and build more connected workplaces. Guest:Connie Noonan Hadley, organisational psychologist, Research Associate Professor, Boston University Questrom School of Business and Founder, Institute for Life at Work. And big thanks to "Jade" for sharing their experience of loneliness at work.

10-24
25:15

Top books for work and life

Lisa is joined by Panio Gianopolous, co-founder and editorial director of the Next Big Idea Club, as they each nominate three non-fiction books related to work that have changed the way they work and live. Tune in to Radio National’s Top 100 Books countdown, Saturday 18th and Sunday 19th October from 1pm. Or catch up anytime on the ABC Listen app.Panio’s picks:The Work of Art: How Something Comes from Nothing by Adam Moss  Slow Productivity: The Lost Art of Accomplishment Without Burnout by Cal Newport Grit: Passion, Perseverance, and the Science of Success by Angela Duckworth Lisa’s picks:The Design of Everyday Things, Don Norman Improv Wisdom, Patricia Ryan Madson The Art of Possibility, Rosamund Stone Zander and Benjamin Zander Extra pick: Atomic Habits, James Clear 

10-17
24:35

Restructure and redundancy, with psychosocial safety

How can reorganisations, restructures and redundancies be managed in a way that works for everyone?With obligations to manage psychosocial hazards now front of mind, this process has never been more important. Guests:Melinda Bell, partner at Norton Rose Fulbright in Melbourne Leonie Green, founder and consultant, Conscious WorkplaceAlso check out our related episode Your role is being made redundant, now what?

10-10
24:35

Should you bring your 'whole self' to work?

There are lessons you can take from the careers of David Bowie and Oprah about identity and authenticity.Being “authentic” in your life and career is something we’re told to aspire to. But can that be taken too far?Dr Tomas, Chamorro- Premuzic, Professor of Business Psychology at University College London and Columbia University, author, Don’t Be Yourself: Why Authenticity is overrated and what to do instead  Julianna Pillemer, Assistant Professor of Management and Organisations, NYU Stern School of Business 

10-03
25:16

Try This: declutter your work from home space

Need help organising your desk or kitchen table workspace? Get decluttering tips that will help clear your mind and your home. Guest:Amy Revell, decluttering expert For more on the psychology of decluttering, check out the All In the Mind episode, Is clutter making you feel bad? 

09-29
14:38

Validation is a skill for work and life

When you validate someone, it shows that you’re there, you get it and you care, even if you don't agree with their point of view.Learn the difference between validation and praise, and how you can use the former to strengthen relationships and build influence at work. Guest:Dr Caroline Fleck, licensed psychologist, corporate consultant and author, Validation: The New Psychology of Influence 

09-26
25:07

The power of gossip at work

Whether you approve of it or not, research shows gossip does have value within organisations, especially when it’s used positively.  Learn how you can harness gossip to improve relationships and communication with colleagues. Guests:Amy Gallo, workplace expert and contributing editor, Harvard Business Review. Author, Getting Along: how to work with anyoneJames Greenslade-Yeats, Research Fellow in Management, Auckland University of Technology 

09-19
25:14

How to nail collaboration between generations

Learn how to build co-operation rather than war, between Gen Z, Millennials, Gen X and Baby Boomers.Instead of leaning on stereotypes, there are ways to work to the strengths of people in teams that include multiple generations.  Guests:Megan Gerhardt, Professor at Farmer School of Business, Miami University and co-author of GentelligenceFlorence Potter, founding director, No umbrellas

09-12
25:15

Are you learning how to switch off from work?

We've reached the one year anniversary of the right to disconnect regulations, which now also apply to small businesses. What are the challenges of managing this change to the ways we contact each other outside of work hours, and how is it impacting work life balance? Guests: Anna Volkova, People and Culture leader, Hi Bob Matthew Addison, Chair, Council of Small Business of Australia (COSBOA) Lisa Heap, senior researcher and labour lawyer, Centre for Future Work, Australia Insitute And thanks to Jeromine Alpe from Corporate Diversity Pathways for sharing her tips for small businesses More information for small businesses navigating the right to disconnect can be found at www.smallbusinesspeak.org.au

09-05
25:08

Could longevity workers save our economic future?

Soon more people will be leaving the workforce than joining it, but most organisations don't encourage older workers to stay on and thrive.Experts say redesigning work to retain mature-age workers across the life cycle is part of the solution to Australia’s ageing population and productivity challenges. We explore how planning for "longevity work" across the career cycle, can help eliminate bias and ageism well before workers hit retirement age.Guests:Daniela Andrei, Associate Professor in the School of Management and Marketing at Curtin University, Associate Investigator with CEPAR Stream 3, Organisations and the Mature Workforce  Chris Eaton, General manager, People and Culture, Chobani And thanks to contributors: Julian Williams, Maturious, a talent platform for hidden mature age talent Alison Hernandez, co-founder, Recreate100 Michele Lemmens, longevity work advocate, strategic innovation expert 

08-29
25:07

Try This: psychosocial safety tips edition

Everyone at work plays a part in preventing psychosocial hazards, including you.We ask an expert how to create a psychosocially safe workplace, and why it's important.Guest:Dr Laura Kirby, chief psychologist, Australian Psychological ServicesCheck out our companion episode: What are we getting wrong about psychosocial safety? , featuring Professor Amy Edmondson from Harvard Business School and Dr Rachael Potter, research lead and expert in psychosocial safety, Uni of South Australia.

08-26
13:00

What are we getting wrong about psychosocial safety?

There’s confusion about the terms psychological safety and psychosocial safety in workplaces, so what’s the difference? Leading expert on psychological safety, Professor Amy Edmondson, and researcher Rachael Potter explain. Plus, are Australia's regulations around psychosocial hazards making a difference to workplace safety and productivity?  Guests:Amy C. Edmondson, Professor of Leadership and Management at the Harvard Business School Dr Rachael Potter,  research lead specialising in psychosocial factors and workplace safety at the University of South Australia And check out our companion episode for practical tips Try This: psychosocial safety tips edition

08-22
25:16

Making decisions like a pro

It’s estimated we make up to 35,000 decisions every day so how can you make better decisions at work? Before you start drawing up pros and cons lists, listen to this episode to hear how you can make decisions with less stress and a lot more satisfaction - from small everyday ones, to big ones like changing career.Guests:Dr Ellen Langer - Professor of Psychology, Harvard University. Author, The Mindful Body.Dr Janneke Blijlevens - Senior Lecturer in Experimental Methods, RMIT UniversityDr Adrian Camilleri - Associate Professor of Marketing, University of Technology Sydney Business SchoolBrigitte Duclos - Counsellor This story was first broadcast on 11 February 2024

08-15
24:35

Managing up during the Trump Presidency

We can learn a lot about gaining influence when you don't have power, from those who work on Capitol Hill. A leadership adviser reveals how Congressional Chiefs of Staff navigate a volatile political environment, with challenging bosses. This is a masterclass in how to manage up and build relationships that can further your career.Guest: Margie Warrell, Leadership advisor, author The Courage Gap

08-08
25:44

Amy

GOLD!

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the guest in this pod cast is overwhelmingly sexiest in her views.

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I love this episode ❤ I've listened to it 3 times so far and really need to relisten more frequently.

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Amy

So interesting !

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So helpful!

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