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‘The Traitors’ Recap | Plus, ‘Love Island Allstars’ Preview and ‘Real Housewives of Salt Lake City’ Appreciation
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00:00:00
Look, it's not that confusing.
00:00:02
I'm Rob Harvilla, host of the podcast "60 Songs That Explained the 90s", except we did 120 songs, and now we're back with the 2000s.
00:00:11
I refuse to say odds, 2000 to 2009.
00:00:14
The Strokes, Rihanna, J-Lo, Kanye, Sure.
00:00:17
And now the show is called "60 Songs That Explained the 90s, Cold in the 2000s".
00:00:22
Wow, that's too long a title for me to say anything else right now.
00:00:26
Just trust me, that's "60 Songs That Explained the 90s, Cold in the 2000s", starting Wednesday, October 2nd, preferably on Spotify.
00:00:35
Welcome to Bachelorette Party, I'm Juliette Lippman.
00:00:51
I'm here as Kali Curry.
00:00:52
Hi Kali.
00:00:53
Hello.
00:00:55
We're going to talk about the traders today.
00:00:57
I'm pretty excited, episodes 1, 2, and 3 on Peacock.
00:01:01
Hope you watched them.
00:01:02
Before we do that though, just wanted to extend our best wishes and just like thinking of everyone in Southern California, particularly the people impacted by the Palisades fire and the Eaton fire and Al-Tedina,
00:01:15
and I know it's ongoing and seems like unpredictable and just based literally on the win changes day to day.
00:01:21
So hope everyone's hanging in and finding safety.
00:01:25
There's so many different ways to help people in those affected areas, and I'm sure you're seeing a lot of that on social media, which is great.
00:01:33
I wanted to highlight one resource, we're going to put the link to in the description of this podcast, so please check it out there.
00:01:40
There is a spreadsheet going around called Displace Black Families GoFundMe directory, and it specifically links to all the GoFundMe's that are supporting families.
00:01:50
Black families who lost their homes in Al-Tedina, Al-Tedina has a really rich history, a black community, and it's just devastating that the whole community has been wiped out.
00:02:01
So I really want to help those families check out the link, the description, and really thinking of everyone and just wishing for the best.
00:02:08
One thing that's also cool about the spreadsheet is it tells you how far along each GoFundMe is, so you can be targeted with your giving to help families who haven't raised as much money as some other ones, however you're comfortable giving,
00:02:20
you should do it, but we think this is a great resource and a great way to start.
00:02:25
Also, if you don't have anything to give, just like reposting the link to the fundraiser is also super helpful, like the more eyes that see it, the better.
00:02:34
Definitely, great points, and I think even just like checking in with the people that you know and seeing how they're doing is meaningful too, so Southern California or thinking of you and wishing you the best,
00:02:45
hope you all stay safe.
00:02:46
And then note, we're still going to cover the traders.
00:02:49
I've been thinking about this, and I do hope that these pods come across as distractions, welcome distractions.
00:02:56
If not, just give it.
00:02:57
We won't be offended.
00:02:58
All right.
00:02:59
Should we talk about this wonderful show?
00:03:03
It was a real peg me up for me, not that I particularly needed it.
00:03:07
I don't live in Southern California, but I was just like, this is a great television.
00:03:11
The casting of the traders is so well done.
00:03:14
I just like, I'm blown away by it.
00:03:17
I was trying to think just now, when you said the casting, the casting is impeccable.
00:03:21
I can't, I think, well, obviously we're only three episodes in, so like, let's see, but I was trying to decide if I like this season or last season's casting better.
00:03:32
It's close.
00:03:33
Well, I think the first thing to note about this season, so far, three episodes in, it's only been a week, is so survivor heavy.
00:03:41
The divide between players who come from like a competition show versus the lifestyle shows is so obvious.
00:03:50
I wonder if that's going to become like a bit of a problem because I do think that in terms of bravo casting, this is an inferior bunch of bravo women than it was last season, partially because they had Fadre and how do you,
00:04:01
how do you top that, right?
00:04:03
Like, Fadre was just so amazing.
00:04:05
Yeah.
00:04:06
Well, also, well, we'll talk about this, but like, they're eliminating the, the Fadres, like Ion and Durrindo would give us not maybe Fadre level,
00:04:17
but like, pretty great content, and they're gone.
00:04:21
So Ion is from Dubai, Durrindo, of course, formerly of New York.
00:04:25
The thing about Fadre, though, is she's so smart.
00:04:29
I'm not sure Durrindo.
00:04:30
Right.
00:04:31
Yeah.
00:04:32
Ion are as smart as her.
00:04:33
She knew what she was doing when she was like, oh, no, not I can sue.
00:04:37
And like, by burgolicious, like, she knew what she was doing.
00:04:40
I think Ion would give a lot more unintentional comedy and Durrindo would have a lot more meltdowns.
00:04:45
They would bring it, but they would bring it in a really different way.
00:04:47
Yeah.
00:04:48
I love Durrindo's like one liners, and like, she gave a lot and was only there for an episode.
00:04:55
But she also played horribly for having a tantrum, like not smart, but really bad.
00:05:01
But she wasn't the only one, like, I was shocked at the tantrums from people on episode one.
00:05:07
Me too.
00:05:08
Me too.
00:05:09
It was really surprising.
00:05:10
But I think like, I do wonder if they're going to have to go for like worse survivor players, because three, three episodes in, this show is already dominated by Boston Rob.
00:05:22
Like, he put his thumb on the scale at that most recent, at the most recent round table, and he changed the game literally by him, like, throwing his very lightly, very lightly.
00:05:33
He was just like, fuck, I have to protect the other traders, so I'm going to have to get turning out.
00:05:37
To be honest, I wouldn't have.
00:05:39
Protect the other traders.
00:05:40
I would want better traders in the next.
00:05:43
Yes.
00:05:44
If you've watched this show, it's better for you to get rid of the bad ones and they would have replaced them.
00:05:51
Yeah.
00:05:52
But the fact that, in my opinion, well, not even my opinion, I think it's pretty factual at this point, um, well, one, I love how Rob became a trader and was like,
00:06:04
this is not the room I wanted to look around to, like, I'm not happy about who the other traders are.
00:06:10
The only thing I will say is that Carolyn is greatly underestimated and perfect to be a trader, perfect.
00:06:20
And she was underestimated in her season of Survivor 2.
00:06:23
Yes.
00:06:24
She was.
00:06:25
Great pick.
00:06:26
And obviously, like, the other survivor people they have are like legends.
00:06:30
She's not a legend by any means, but great casting call and great pick for a trader.
00:06:36
Like, I'm very happy with it all.
00:06:38
She is by far the best trader.
00:06:42
And yeah, if I'm Rob, he'll figure that out pretty quickly, I think, like, I think by next episode, he's going to be like, all right, so it's me and Carolyn, like, that's what I need to work with.
00:06:50
Yeah.
00:06:51
And like, probably need to get rid of Bob and Danielle.
00:06:54
What fucking horrible job they're doing.
00:06:56
Okay.
00:06:57
So Danielle, she's a bad trader, like, she's just, like, it's too obvious people are on to her.
00:07:03
Carolyn, why are you crying?
00:07:05
Why was she crying?
00:07:06
Was that real?
00:07:07
What's that?
00:07:08
Was that real?
00:07:09
Well, the weird thing was, like, Bob was crying, but like, Bob is over the top 24/7.
00:07:17
So like, his crying to me wouldn't be like, no one noticed that is like weird, because he like would cry over anything, I think, or like yell over anything.
00:07:22
Even his tantrums, like, seems like that's just like standard Bob activity.
00:07:27
But like, she saw Bob crying and then was like, okay, yeah, I'm going to cry too.
00:07:30
Why?
00:07:31
What are you doing?
00:07:32
The fact that there's two Bob's, so he has to go by Bob the drag queen all the time.
00:07:36
Like, I'm like, one of the graphics I show is like, it's like Bob DQ, because it's like differentiating him from Bob from the biggest loser.
00:07:45
It's so funny.
00:07:47
I thought that Bob was really good.
00:07:50
I was like, oh, wow, he's playing chess, everyone else is playing checkers.
00:07:53
And I think I thought that like an episode one, but by episode three, I was just like, oh, he's going to flame out.
00:07:59
Like, even if he's throwing people off the cent right now, he's too dramatic, that like, that's just a liability in a game like this.
00:08:07
I think the reason Carolyn is so good as a trader is because she is weird and hard to read.
00:08:13
So good.
00:08:14
But she's quietly weird, right?
00:08:15
Like, she doesn't, doesn't make a big show of it.
00:08:18
Bob is all show.
00:08:20
Like, there's some substance behind it for sure.
00:08:22
But he is very much like a, like a dramatic player and I think people are going to get tired and distrustful.
00:08:29
I think they're already tired because I loved him episode one.
00:08:32
I texted you and by episode three, I was like, he's got to go.
00:08:35
Yeah.
00:08:36
I think that like Rob needs to strategically get rid of of him and Danielle and then it's interesting to me that the show clearly wanted Rob to be on and they wanted him to be a trader that like they probably when when no one allowed him into the game and episode one,
00:08:54
which was obviously the right move.
00:08:56
They probably just like, okay, we're making up new rules to get Rob in the show.
00:09:00
I like that.
00:09:01
You kind of need him.
00:09:02
Like you he's filling the poverty role from last season where like you need someone who's just really strategic and also like a really good liar because the way that he played the roundtable was really impressive,
00:09:15
I thought yeah, like he was doing like he contemplated in his head.
00:09:20
Am I going to throw him under the bus or not?
00:09:22
And it's just like, all right, I'm going to like, although Tony being like your a sellout, I was like, oh my God, that really hurt and like I felt so bad for Tony.
00:09:31
I didn't do it.
00:09:32
I'm not really a Tony fan, but he would have made it for the show.
00:09:34
Me either.
00:09:35
But like, he was what his feelings were really hurt conversely, Jeremy being like so earnest about like Tony's not a trader was also really moving.
00:09:45
I know what's cool about the survivor dynamic is though they're not particularly loyal to each other based on survivor, but they do really leverage their time having played together to have like impact the game.
00:09:56
So like having a survivor, people is really worthwhile because it adds a level of strategy that well would be missing otherwise.
00:10:03
The survivor, any like you said, the gamers, yeah, like how serious they take this compared to like, I don't know, fucking Robin,
00:10:14
just like having a time, it's really interesting, like the difference in how they all play, like there's no strategy going on in Robin's head right now.
00:10:24
Robin's just like, I'm, I'm here for a good time, not a long time.
00:10:28
I think you got my show, just to get more money, they're just like, who's a trader?
00:10:33
You're a trader.
00:10:34
Are you a trader?
00:10:35
Like, the gamers are like, I think this person might be, but like, I'm not going to say anything.
00:10:39
I got to see how they act like I'm going to play this this way.
00:10:43
Like they're, even if it's the wrong strategy, they're thinking out how they move in the house.
00:10:48
And the Bravo people are just like, what up?
00:10:51
Yeah, they're just laughing at everyone.
00:10:53
Who's a trader?
00:10:54
Raise your hand.
00:10:55
I have a trio of Trishelle, Nikki and Gabby is pretty fun because they're not that good of the game.
00:11:02
Although, Trishelle is impressing me.
00:11:03
I really underestimated her and they're kind of like in the middle.
00:11:06
Gabby is too.
00:11:07
I think Gabby.
00:11:08
Nikki's like useless.
00:11:09
I forget she's on the show, so they randomly show her.
00:11:11
And then I'm like, oh, yeah, she is here.
00:11:13
A lot of Nikki Bella and my life the last week, she's just like everywhere.
00:11:17
Not me.
00:11:18
Why?
00:11:19
She was like seated next to Bill at the WWE, and she was like being very, she was like twerking like next to him on camera.
00:11:27
I have to see this.
00:11:29
No, I've got to see this.
00:11:31
I'll send it to you.
00:11:32
So I, um, I can't even imagine this.
00:11:35
Well, it happened.
00:11:38
Um, anyway, Nikki Bella's been really present.
00:11:41
And I think she, I, I'm loving Gabby.
00:11:44
Like that is a big takeaway for me.
00:11:45
Love loving Gabby.
00:11:46
But I love.
00:11:47
Love and Krishelle.
00:11:48
Me too.
00:11:49
I love both of that.
00:11:50
I'm really surprised.
00:11:51
It's how much I like Krishelle on the show.
00:11:52
Well, also I'm just like, she needs to get off selling sense that like her talents are being wasted.
00:11:56
Totally.
00:11:57
She's clearly a good character when they were doing the little river game and she was like, who created this?
00:12:02
Let me guess a man.
00:12:03
I was just like, oh, she's funny.
00:12:06
Similarly, I liked when, um, I forgot it was someone asked Gabby what she was from.
00:12:11
She was like, Bachelor of Bachelor at and they're like, how'd that go for you?
00:12:14
And she was like, how'd that go for me?
00:12:15
I'm a lesbian now.
00:12:17
And I really, her, her, her, her, her, her, she'll are both later in life, lesbian.
00:12:22
So they're probably like bonding over that too.
00:12:23
It's great.
00:12:24
They're great together.
00:12:25
I'm like, sign me up for their buddy show.
00:12:26
Like I, I like.
00:12:27
I love it.
00:12:28
I love it.
00:12:29
Also, I love Gabby's outfit.
00:12:30
You know, she put so much thought into it.
00:12:32
I love how she's wearing the rubber boots with the high socks.
00:12:34
Like, she looks really cute.
00:12:36
She's great.
00:12:37
Wait, also, I saw an interview Bob the drag queen did and the interviewer was like, how amazing was it to like go into this house with like all these legends.
00:12:48
And Bob was like, this is not shade whatsoever.
00:12:51
Like, I promise you, this is not shade.
00:12:53
I did not know a single person.
00:12:55
Not one.
00:12:56
He's like, I had no idea what show they were from.
00:12:57
I fully believe it.
00:12:58
I fully believe that.
00:12:59
He was like, I did not, I had to meet everybody.
00:13:01
I did not, I couldn't have picked out one single person.
00:13:06
That's incredible.
00:13:07
I know.
00:13:08
And he was also a huge advantage in the game.
00:13:11
So he was, he kept saying like, I am not trying to throw shade.
00:13:15
I'm not trying to show shade.
00:13:17
Maybe didn't know who I was.
00:13:18
That's fine.
00:13:19
I genuinely did not know a single person.
00:13:22
And I was just like, I can't imagine going in there and everyone's like, oh my god, it's West.
00:13:26
Oh, no, no, no.
00:13:27
No one knew West.
00:13:28
That was amazing.
00:13:29
No one knew West.
00:13:30
But can you imagine Bob just being like, hey, like, I don't know any of you guys.
00:13:37
Bob drag queen, right?
00:13:38
That's easy.
00:13:39
That Bob the biggest loser.
00:13:41
Yeah.
00:13:42
Bob the biggest loser.
00:13:43
I'm speaking of not knowing.
00:13:44
Don't know who you are.
00:13:45
But Bob either.
00:13:46
Me neither.
00:13:47
Me neither.
00:13:48
I think I've are.
00:13:49
It's like useful.
00:13:50
And Bob, Bob biggest loser or similar.
00:13:52
I'm just going to call him Bob biggest loser forever.
00:13:55
That's horrible.
00:13:56
Well, that's where he came from.
00:13:58
No wonder.
00:13:59
It's Bob H and Bob the drag queen.
00:14:01
I'm.
00:14:02
Thank God they didn't go with.
00:14:03
Let's call him Bob the biggest loser and him Bob the drag queen.
00:14:06
I'm glad they, I'm glad they chose to go with Bob H.
00:14:09
Until this moment, I don't think I fully appreciated what a good name for a TV show.
00:14:12
The biggest loser is.
00:14:14
It's horrible.
00:14:16
But I've are and Bob H have like the advantage of like, they, nobody knows anything about them.
00:14:23
They can just sort of like.
00:14:24
And also, they can't really bring anything to the table like with I've ours.
00:14:27
Just like, okay.
00:14:28
So like Tom Sandeball, Christian was like, you're really good at lying.
00:14:33
You're really good at manipulating.
00:14:34
You're really going to be a bad person.
00:14:36
And like, I can't believe anything that you said.
00:14:38
Also, I love shoes.
00:14:39
Like, I'm friends with my ex and he was like, uh, everybody is like, you know, must suck.
00:14:45
It must suck.
00:14:46
The funniest thing that's been happening online around the show is like a lot of people having their first stand of all experience and being like, I love, I love it.
00:14:56
Like people asking online, like, is this person dumb?
00:14:59
And people who love me, I think he's actually this dumb.
00:15:03
And then.
00:15:04
Oh, contrary, my friend, he sure is.
00:15:08
And then I saw someone else be like, he's going through a full detox on camera.
00:15:12
He is sweating.
00:15:13
His pupils are huge.
00:15:14
That's a great point.
00:15:15
A great point.
00:15:16
He is like, never been so long without whatever he's usually on.
00:15:21
They have shown his sweat a lot.
00:15:24
A lot.
00:15:25
They have shown him like, with his like pits and like wearing gray and like his names.
00:15:30
His pit stains are nuts.
00:15:32
And the camera like specifically zooms in on just the pit stain.
00:15:36
It's a very large armpit cavity.
00:15:39
Like, yeah, like, I'm a sweaty person too, but definitely like not that hard, maybe because he has big biceps, I don't, I don't really know.
00:15:48
I think he's dripping.
00:15:49
Yeah, he, that's a great point where they beat detox.
00:15:51
I hadn't thought about that, but it must be true because they're pretty strict.
00:15:54
I think about like what you can.
00:15:55
It can't do.
00:15:56
Even just in my country.
00:15:57
Yeah.
00:15:58
There's just my alcohol like, yeah, drinking less and stuff, something's happening because they're definitely focusing on the sweat.
00:16:04
I also didn't think of it.
00:16:06
I was just like, why is he so fucking hot?
00:16:07
No one else is sweating.
00:16:09
And then I saw a TikTok RIP and someone was like, the one of my favorite things about the show is like watching Tom like detox on camera.
00:16:19
Like they keep focusing on his sweating.
00:16:21
They zoom in on his face and his eyes like are dilated, he's shaking a little bit, making zero sense.
00:16:28
And I was just like, wow, that's why he's sweating because I was really trying to figure it out.
00:16:33
Great point.
00:16:34
We don't know for sure, but that is a really good hypothesis.
00:16:36
Yeah.
00:16:37
A couple of other people that I just wanted to mention, I began to talk with Dylan Efron, brother of Zell.
00:16:42
Oh, wait, I love Dylan.
00:16:44
I like him too, but he, it's funny, like the three seasons in the traders US has really developed like archetypes, like he's the Peter Weber of this season.
00:16:54
Like overly confident, thinks he has it all figured out, however he does, he is onto it.
00:17:00
Yeah.
00:17:01
He's also just like, I'm here to play.
00:17:04
His thing is like, I talked about it on Instagram.
00:17:06
His thing is like van life and he's really into the outdoors and stuff.
00:17:08
Oh, I didn't know that.
00:17:10
Yeah.
00:17:11
He's four years younger than his brother, Zach.
00:17:13
He looks so much like Zach Efron, but not at all.
00:17:16
It's like his eyes are the same.
00:17:17
They're telling me about him.
00:17:19
I find him very handsome, very cute guy.
00:17:21
Me too.
00:17:22
Zach didn't, something happened and he had to like have his jaw surgery and so his face looks different.
00:17:28
But I still see it.
00:17:29
I'm also a big Zach Efron fan wishing for the best for him.
00:17:31
I think he's at a rough road.
00:17:33
I have nothing against him.
00:17:34
So yeah, sure, go Zach Efron, but his brother has been delightful.
00:17:40
I really enjoy watching him and for him to kind of come on the show and be like, I don't know why I'm here, but like, let's do this and actually try hard.
00:17:49
And again, you hear him talk strategy for someone who has never been on TV before in his life.
00:17:56
Well, he is on the show with his brother, Zach Efron on Netflix, but not like a strategy show.
00:18:01
No, not a strategy show.
00:18:03
And he's just like, thanks brother, usually.
00:18:05
I know it's Bob, but I'm going to have to back off a little bit right now.
00:18:09
I'm like, wow, look at he is playing the game.
00:18:12
Totally, totally.
00:18:13
And also Bob is so fucking dumb that like, he would eliminate that.
00:18:19
He would eliminate him if he kept going.
00:18:21
That's a great point.
00:18:22
I think Dylan can go far, honestly.
00:18:24
It'll be about how he builds an alliance and like who he, because he's been talking to Danielle, right?
00:18:30
I'm hoping he, yes, he trusts Danielle, which is not far.
00:18:33
I hope that he switches to Gabby, which seems like that's possible.
00:18:38
The only thing about Gabby, I love her on the show.
00:18:40
I don't think she's too smart.
00:18:42
She's not really picking up on on anything.
00:18:44
Yes.
00:18:45
Yeah.
00:18:46
That's okay.
00:18:47
We still love you, Gabby.
00:18:48
Bob must be so fun for like women to be around, because so many of them are like zero chance it's Bob.
00:18:56
No way it's Bob.
00:18:57
I know.
00:18:58
And I'm like, why are you guys saying like, I just can't imagine being on the show for four days and being like, I know for 100% fact, he is not like, no, no, you don't.
00:19:07
I know, you've, how can you rule out anyone?
00:19:10
Yeah.
00:19:11
There's people that just like are like, I haven't feeling about people and like, it's not him.
00:19:16
It isn't.
00:19:17
Actually.
00:19:18
Also, hate, they're like little deliberation.
00:19:23
They just like run over Carolyn.
00:19:25
And I'm like, wait guys, she's right.
00:19:27
And no one will take a second to listen to her.
00:19:30
This is why she's going to go far too.
00:19:31
She gets, as he's pointed out, she gets underestimated all the time, and she's like good for TV as a result of that.
00:19:36
I just hope she plays it properly.
00:19:40
You nailed it.
00:19:41
Her and Rob really need to align to take control of the game and get the other two to basically be out without having at the round table to say it themselves.
00:19:50
They need other people just to like really get into it.
00:19:54
And the thing is, I think if they're able to do this smartly, because they got to take out Bob before his big mouth gets them in trouble, because he will throw them under a bus in a second.
00:20:06
Totally.
00:20:07
They got to get out Bob and, well, this is the thing.
00:20:10
I guess this is another question I'll ask after this, but Carolyn would win, because if Rob gets too far down, they're going to eliminate him because he's just such a huge target.
00:20:20
You can't trust them.
00:20:22
Yeah.
00:20:23
They already let CT win, which was just the dumbest thing ever.
00:20:26
That's a lot more understandable to me than letting Rob win.
00:20:28
CT, I also think, could be underestimated, because CT doesn't talk that much.
00:20:33
Rob does.
00:20:34
Rob is a master manipulator.
00:20:35
CT is just like athletic and weirdly likable.
00:20:39
Well, also from watching this show, like I, both of us, are huge challenge fans and huge survivor fans.
00:20:50
Challenges kind of like what we grew up with, like survivor was around when we were like younger, but like, I feel like it's different, like the challenge people, I feel like turns over in a way.
00:21:02
Survivors is the same game.
00:21:03
The challenge has evolved a lot.
00:21:05
Well, and it's like the same characters over and over again, so you get like a tattoo where survivors like a completely new set of cast, most of the time.
00:21:13
I just feel like the challenge is really a show like work real world that like is millennial.
00:21:19
Like it is my generation of a show.
00:21:22
Survivor is kind of a bit older in my opinion.
00:21:23
Like I think it has like six-year-olds that watch it.
00:21:27
It is shocking to me how much more people know survivor people than challenge people.
00:21:33
Like challenge people like Wes, it's been on TV for 20 fucking years, but they don't know him.
00:21:40
Like, so to your point, to me being such a challenge fan, I'm like, how the fuck are these people underestimating CT?
00:21:48
Like he's been on TV so much.
00:21:51
Yeah.
00:21:52
But to them, like Rob and Tony are like way bigger targets than CT ever was.
00:21:58
Well.
00:21:59
Or Wes ever was.
00:22:00
But also the funny thing about Wes, I guess what has villains just wrapped up and he posted in like a long Instagram that was like, don't attack the people on the show.
00:22:10
And I guess people are being attacked or whatever.
00:22:12
Anyway, Wes is on TV a lot, but he just kind of like flies out of the radar unless like you are aware of him.
00:22:19
But the funny thing is like, you know, he said he was retiring from the challenge because it's like too big of a commitment, but he's been on like four shows this year.
00:22:26
Every other show.
00:22:27
I was so happy to see him, like just so happy.
00:22:31
I love this.
00:22:32
I love this.
00:22:33
I don't even know why.
00:22:34
I love us too.
00:22:35
Most people don't for some reason, but I have to I've also never watched him on like most of these other shows.
00:22:41
Me neither.
00:22:42
I've had so much of the challenge.
00:22:43
I'm like a little tempted to watch dealer and no deal island.
00:22:46
I'll report back on that, but I don't think so, but I just was thinking about like all these other like random shows that I don't watch.
00:22:54
But maybe we should just get involved.
00:22:55
Uh, I almost did last night because I was I would do a deal island.
00:23:00
Yes, because I told you this before I got on the show.
00:23:03
I'm not exaggerating.
00:23:05
I'm guessing I had nine shots yesterday between the hours of one and four.
00:23:10
That is like real college behavior.
00:23:12
Good for you.
00:23:13
That's awesome.
00:23:14
Mother of three can still party like she said, a keg party.
00:23:17
I think that's my problem.
00:23:19
Like I don't really party that much, but whenever I do, I think that I'm still capable of the same thing, you have to learn your new limits.
00:23:26
No, and so this morning I was working out and while I was working out, I was like, wow, I am back in college.
00:23:34
Like I drink way too much.
00:23:37
I'm working out really hard for some reason.
00:23:39
The workout today was really hard and I threw up afterwards and now I'm just going about my day.
00:23:44
Like what would I be?
00:23:45
Oh, this is this is filled with liquid.
00:23:48
I be it's my second one of the day out of one last night as well.
00:23:51
What I was going to say is, so I drink really hard, then I had to put my kids come home and be a mom, which sure knows what the fuck they saw last night.
00:23:59
They all seem healthy though.
00:24:00
So who knows they're fine, but I put them to sleep and I was putting my youngest to sleep and I fell asleep like while putting them to sleep.
00:24:09
And then I woke up and it was like, oh shit, put them in the crib, came downstairs, but I took like a 30 minute nap.
00:24:14
Was he awake to sleep?
00:24:15
What was he doing while you were napping?
00:24:17
He was awake when I woke up, but he just laid there with me.
00:24:20
And like a chair, like a glider, kind of thing?
00:24:23
Yeah, I was like, I usually like sit in the glider for like five minutes with him with the lights off, just like settle him down after reading a book, but I fell asleep and then I woke up 30 minutes later and he was still just sitting there with his eyes open,
00:24:34
watching me sleep.
00:24:35
That sounds really peaceful for everybody, how nice.
00:24:38
He was, he was calming down too.
00:24:39
So like he was fine.
00:24:40
He didn't wake me up.
00:24:41
I woke up, put him in the crib, came downstairs and like, I just took a 30 minute nap at 8 p.m.
00:24:47
So I was wide awake.
00:24:48
Are you pregnant again?
00:24:49
Are you pregnant again?
00:24:50
Can you rule that out?
00:24:52
I can rule it out for sure.
00:24:54
Never happening again.
00:24:56
And I was like on Hulu, like what the fuck to watch?
00:24:58
I already watched Landman, like I just didn't know it to watch and deal no deal Island kept popping up.
00:25:05
Was that peacock or Hulu?
00:25:06
I think both.
00:25:07
And I was like, should I just start it, should I just start it?
00:25:09
And then I was like, no, I need to go to sleep.
00:25:12
Maybe we should watch it for next week, so each give it a shot.
00:25:14
Yeah.
00:25:15
I'm down.
00:25:16
I've heard it's good.
00:25:17
But when you were like, I'm not doing that.
00:25:20
And I was like, maybe I will.
00:25:21
People DM me and was like, please, watch it.
00:25:23
It's good.
00:25:24
Okay.
00:25:25
All right.
00:25:26
I'm going to check on dealer no deal Island.
00:25:27
I'll report back.
00:25:28
Anyway, it was really funny that nobody knew Wes and then Welles and Sande have all started giving him coins in that second challenge.
00:25:35
Wait, also?
00:25:36
Yes.
00:25:37
I thought Welles was like the Peter Weber, but I'm so anti-Welles.
00:25:41
I always have been.
00:25:42
It's another bias.
00:25:43
I have like just some of these biases against the people that I just can't have.
00:25:46
For no reason?
00:25:47
Well, once I interviewed Welles and I thought it was like a pretty bad interview.
00:25:51
I just don't really know how he got like anointed to being like the bartender on paradise and like why he's like around all the time.
00:25:58
I don't think he was because of his girlfriend or now wife.
00:26:01
I feel like that's why he got the the the nod.
00:26:05
I guess, but like everyone's like, oh, he's cool.
00:26:08
He's not bringing much to the table.
00:26:10
Like, he's just not doing anything for me.
00:26:13
Yeah.
00:26:14
I don't dislike him.
00:26:15
I was glad he was gone.
00:26:16
And mostly because he's like, he adds nothing to the show.
00:26:19
I was glad he was gone because I released another big character didn't go home.
00:26:25
Yeah.
00:26:26
Totally.
00:26:27
I don't lose it.
00:26:28
I don't lose it.
00:26:29
Duranda and Tony in the first week.
00:26:30
Yeah.
00:26:31
That's tough.
00:26:32
Duranda is a big loss.
00:26:33
But Duranda, Ion and Tony.
00:26:35
I know.
00:26:36
I don't ask you about.
00:26:37
I don't ask you about.
00:26:38
I don't need big characters.
00:26:39
I'm like less invested in.
00:26:41
I'm going to send you a video of Ion dancing that she posted like yesterday and it'll explain everything.
00:26:46
Okay.
00:26:47
One thing I was thinking about this show that was like, probably really fun.
00:26:50
Nobody's a share of room.
00:26:51
It's like one of the only reality shows where like, you never have to share a room.
00:26:54
Well, they don't really show you in your room.
00:26:56
So, right.
00:26:57
And part of it also is okay.
00:26:58
I'm right there.
00:26:59
Something happens.
00:27:00
It's really nice.
00:27:01
Yeah.
00:27:02
Yeah.
00:27:03
I know it's probably a fun show to go on for that reason.
00:27:04
Yeah.
00:27:05
It seems like everyone likes it.
00:27:06
Yeah.
00:27:07
Totally.
00:27:08
Lindsay Hubbard was pissed she had a leave.
00:27:09
I don't know.
00:27:10
Speaking of Lindsay Hubbard, Sierra's had no impact so far and I'm going to need more from her.
00:27:15
I like her outfits.
00:27:16
Okay.
00:27:17
That's it.
00:27:18
That's all I got right now.
00:27:23
Who do you think wins?
00:27:24
As of today, who's your pick to win?
00:27:26
Carolyn.
00:27:27
Wow.
00:27:28
I have no idea.
00:27:29
I was thinking, I think I would do really badly on this show.
00:27:32
I would be racked with paranoia.
00:27:34
I would know who to trust.
00:27:36
And I think it's a hard show to win.
00:27:38
I think it's very hard to like get to the end of the show because it's a really hard show to win.
00:27:46
This is what I was going to ask you earlier when I was talking and I was like, I'm going to ask you this.
00:27:50
It is interesting.
00:27:51
Do you cheer for the traders or the what's the other one's called the boy with the Faithfuls?
00:27:56
There you go.
00:27:57
I was disappointed that the Faithful didn't find a trader.
00:28:03
So I guess I like feel more for the Faithful, but I'm I root for people.
00:28:07
Like I don't really care one way or the other.
00:28:08
But like the people I find myself rooting for, like just like right now, my heart of hearts are crucial, Gabby and Wes, like those are the three that I'm just like, I would be having any any of them one and Jeremy.
00:28:20
I love Jeremy.
00:28:21
I love Jeremy.
00:28:22
I love Jeremy.
00:28:23
Oh my god.
00:28:24
I love him.
00:28:25
Is he single?
00:28:26
No.
00:28:27
He's like married to children.
00:28:28
I know.
00:28:29
I was like, I was just thinking he'd be a hot, come on.
00:28:32
Totally.
00:28:33
Totally.
00:28:34
I believe he's married to children.
00:28:35
I would be really happy if he won.
00:28:36
That's my four.
00:28:37
They're like of my four favorite people.
00:28:38
Like, I don't think Rob can win.
00:28:39
I'm glad he's on the show because he does like make it more compelling.
00:28:42
But I don't think you should win.
00:28:44
I don't think you will win.
00:28:45
I think it's very hard for someone like him to win.
00:28:47
Like Parvady never had a chance either.
00:28:49
I agree.
00:28:50
I think it's very hard for someone like him to win all those fucking three one, which is nuts to me.
00:28:55
Like, the other one, the other one, I'm like, how like how do you get to the end?
00:29:01
How did Cere get to the end?
00:29:03
That's why with Carolyn, to me, like they just think she's a joke.
00:29:09
So I just don't know how anyone would waste a vote on her.
00:29:12
I just don't know if people are going to be able to convince people that she's a trader.
00:29:16
That's why Rob needs to band together with her too.
00:29:19
Also, the other traders are so big.
00:29:21
Right.
00:29:22
So like, they're going to go after Bob and Danielle and Rob before her.
00:29:26
Right.
00:29:27
And I just think it's going to take a long time to get through those three.
00:29:30
And then of course, a long way, I think they'll recruit some people.
00:29:34
I think if they recruit, I feel like Gabby is top of the list.
00:29:39
She would be good.
00:29:40
Also, she's widely liked.
00:29:41
I think you want to have someone with like a lot of social capital.
00:29:45
So that was the one thing with CT that is different than Rob.
00:29:49
CT appeals to people in a way like, well, Fadra wanted to be in his skin.
00:29:56
Yeah, she loved him.
00:29:59
Absolutely loved him.
00:30:00
And she was a trader and she was just like, no, I can't, I can't do it to CT.
00:30:05
In like the most old school of ways yesterday, yesterday morning, I woke up, but I wasn't on yet.
00:30:11
There was like, I've like caught up on like literally all of my shows now.
00:30:14
And I was like, what the fuck should I watch?
00:30:16
I started going through the guide and I on YouTube TV.
00:30:20
And I ended up on MTV 2 that was showing the challenge season 22, Battle of the X's, and it was down to the final four.
00:30:28
It was Johnny and Camilla, but Anna is like, Miller, Emily and Ty and then, oh, Bark and Robin and then CT and DM and I was like,
00:30:38
fucking CT.
00:30:39
I can't watch that.
00:30:40
It was really sad.
00:30:41
It was really, really sad.
00:30:43
They really loved each other.
00:30:45
Just like even as friends, like, it was really sad, but I loved watching old CT because like, you kind of forget, I feel like CT has become like way less verbal.
00:30:56
Like he talks a lot less than he used to and like grunts a lot more.
00:31:00
He's been through a lot of shit too, including DM.
00:31:02
But seeing him is, I think, I don't know if they were married, but like, yeah, he had a divorce.
00:31:07
He's had a lot of shit in his life.
00:31:10
And he used to be used to talk more and he was like such a good competitor.
00:31:15
I don't know.
00:31:16
It was just like a real, it was like, it was crazy.
00:31:18
Actually, my detects banana is about it because it was like, also funny to watch him when he, like, looks so young.
00:31:24
That was season 22.
00:31:25
I was going to say, did you watch the finale?
00:31:28
I haven't watched it yet, but I know what happened.
00:31:30
In depth.
00:31:31
So shout out to Jordan.
00:31:32
I think he's just incredible.
00:31:34
I'm obsessed with him.
00:31:35
I just don't know if my, I know you're like halfway, I, it's, I, I, I respect him so deeply.
00:31:43
Like I respect his athletic ability and like his drive so, so deeply.
00:31:48
He is, I think that he could like, summit Mount Everest.
00:31:52
I think he could survive under space like, I think he could, I think he can do anything physical.
00:31:58
He puts his mind to literally.
00:31:59
I 100% agree.
00:32:01
And he'd be a great casting for this show.
00:32:04
Would he though?
00:32:05
Yeah.
00:32:06
He'd be great.
00:32:07
Okay.
00:32:08
Especially this version of him, like he's definitely, that's why I love the finale this year, like after he won.
00:32:13
He was like, this is not my first win, but this is my first time winning where I like, haven't, I've been able to like be good to the people that are good to me.
00:32:23
Yeah.
00:32:24
He's definitely grown.
00:32:25
Like he is someone who is involved so much from when he was on real world to who he is now.
00:32:31
He is actually the case for like, believing people can change, honestly, I mean, maybe that's like ridiculous to put on Jordan wisely, but like I actually do, I actually do think that.
00:32:42
Like and he, you know, even the show with like him and Nia, they both were like so public about their reconciliation and like, her talking to him.
00:32:50
And I do think he has made like a lot of like growth as a person.
00:32:54
So, yeah, totally, totally.
00:32:58
So anyway, I guess he'd be good on the show.
00:33:01
I don't know.
00:33:02
I just think it's a hard show to win.
00:33:04
Like I said, like, I don't think he's going to win, but I think he'd be good on it.
00:33:07
It's almost impossible to win if you're like that good.
00:33:11
It's true, because you become a target, although it is funny to see Dylan trying so hard in the challenges.
00:33:17
I think there was a, there was a video where part of it was like, the challenges don't matter.
00:33:22
I don't, I didn't try it all.
00:33:24
And like, Dylan's like, no, I'm trying and I'm going to win this.
00:33:27
And it's like, it's just really funny to witness it.
00:33:30
He's trying to, you know, have some worth in the house because nobody knows who he is.
00:33:35
Also, I think he enjoys it.
00:33:36
He's like, I think he likes succeeding in the challenges.
00:33:38
He's like, I'm winning us money.
00:33:40
So keep your eyes wide.
00:33:42
Why is she here?
00:33:43
What did you say?
00:33:44
Otherwise, why am I here?
00:33:46
Right.
00:33:47
On the topic of the shields Rob made a great point, but Rob is a master because he didn't have to do anything to like,
00:33:57
silly Tony's name or lie when he was like, I gave you the shield and you haven't mentioned it to me.
00:34:02
And I think that's weird.
00:34:04
Like, that was such a great line.
00:34:07
Like it just was like a great thinking about that is crazy going to that having that in his back pocket.
00:34:14
I think he probably like thought about like, how will I position this?
00:34:17
Like, what's my strategy for, for getting like for, you know, protecting the other traders.
00:34:23
And that was just such a smart subtle move.
00:34:26
Like he didn't have to make anything up.
00:34:28
He didn't have to like, throw anything out.
00:34:30
That was like, yeah, he just was like, here's something I observed.
00:34:35
I gave you the shield.
00:34:36
You haven't talked to me about it.
00:34:37
It's like great point, Rob.
00:34:38
Really good point.
00:34:39
Yeah.
00:34:40
Also, like that now that I'm repeating it, that has nothing to do with being a trader.
00:34:43
Like who cares?
00:34:44
Like.
00:34:45
Well, I feel like he, just because I think he's so calculated, I feel like he was like, I'm going to give this shield to someone and if, let's see how they act with it, and I can use this to my advantage.
00:34:56
And then they were talking about Tony and he was just like, well, I got this.
00:34:59
So.
00:35:00
Who do you wish was a trader who's not?
00:35:03
Who do I wish was a trader?
00:35:08
I wish West was a trader.
00:35:10
I do too.
00:35:11
He would be like really fun, but they can't have West and Rob be traders.
00:35:15
Yeah.
00:35:16
It's almost like West can become the ringleader of the faithful because he will fill that void, you know?
00:35:21
And I think it'll be really obvious that he's faithful.
00:35:24
I could see West going far, honestly, because I think it'll be pretty apparent that he's a faithful.
00:35:28
Um, and he seems to be able to get under the radar a little bit because people don't know his past.
00:35:35
It's just so weird.
00:35:36
It's interesting to me that there's no, there's like no hint of romance on this show whatsoever.
00:35:41
Even survivor has more of a hint of romance.
00:35:42
Well, I can sue and Peter.
00:35:46
No, that's true.
00:35:47
That was short-lived.
00:35:48
Oh, no, that was short-lived.
00:35:52
I'm top of that, and I can sue.
00:35:55
Oh, no, not that.
00:35:56
I can sue.
00:35:57
That iconic.
00:35:58
I'm top of that.
00:35:59
I can sue.
00:36:00
We found out last week.
00:36:01
Love Island, UK All Stars.
00:36:02
It starts this week.
00:36:03
Woohoo!
00:36:04
We're both, like, just celebrating right now with our arms.
00:36:08
I'm so excited.
00:36:09
It starts tonight in the UK.
00:36:11
We're two days behind.
00:36:12
We get it here on the 15th Wednesday on Peacock.
00:36:16
Man, am I excited.
00:36:17
Great cast.
00:36:18
I am so fucking happy that Scott from season two and Marcel from season three or back.
00:36:22
We're going to be happy about, I thought you're going to be happy about Marcel and then Scott.
00:36:27
But people are not happy with the cast and I'm like, people aren't happy with the cast or people that, like, haven't been watching for a long time.
00:36:33
What are they talking about?
00:36:35
Gabby and Marcel had a brutal breakup and they're both back on the show.
00:36:39
Yeah.
00:36:40
And, like, Luke is back.
00:36:41
I mean, there's just some castes back.
00:36:44
There's some great people back.
00:36:47
I'm so excited.
00:36:48
I'm so excited.
00:36:49
And then, I think Grace and, I don't know who the other one is, are going to be bombshells.
00:36:57
Grace is such a good bombshell from last season.
00:36:59
You don't watch last season, right?
00:37:01
No.
00:37:02
No, I didn't.
00:37:03
Um, I just, I mean, I helped Tyreeke make some appearance at some point.
00:37:09
I bet you will.
00:37:10
I bet.
00:37:11
I'm hoping for that.
00:37:12
I don't even know what I'm hoping for.
00:37:13
I'm just really happy.
00:37:14
It's back.
00:37:15
Also, it just feels like a really good cast.
00:37:16
I don't know everyone, but I know about half of them, because they're sort of like, I think I know everyone.
00:37:21
They're like real, like, love Island, because it's like core love Island vibes, like even live from season eight or nine, whatever that was, who I hated.
00:37:30
I'm excited.
00:37:31
I care.
00:37:32
Yeah.
00:37:33
I'm excited to see what she does and excited to see how she involved in the game.
00:37:37
I actually watched.
00:37:38
That's the heck in two season, and I'm familiar with Luca.
00:37:41
I'm looking forward to that too.
00:37:44
Like, I'm just really falling.
00:37:46
Someone else that I was into was the other person.
00:37:49
Also, I miss my adjama, like after, after trying to just get through the slog of soapy monk on Australia, it's just like, give us a true host, give us someone who's fun and fun to look at.
00:38:00
I'm really, really excited.
00:38:02
So we'll be covering that too.
00:38:03
Please watch, everybody.
00:38:04
Just jump in.
00:38:05
It's going to be like a fun summer fling.
00:38:08
They're in South Africa.
00:38:09
Oh, Curtis.
00:38:10
Curtis.
00:38:11
Oh, my gosh.
00:38:12
Curtis.
00:38:13
Yeah, it's just going to be so great.
00:38:14
I'm so excited.
00:38:15
I'm fucking fired up.
00:38:16
And I just said to you last week on the pod that I was like craving love island and I almost started to season.
00:38:20
So here we are.
00:38:21
We're so lucky.
00:38:22
Also, there'll only be two days behind the UK is huge.
00:38:24
We won't get spoiled.
00:38:26
We can all be in a global conversation together.
00:38:28
Amazing.
00:38:29
What did you say?
00:38:30
I said, it's amazing that they've like shortened the gap.
00:38:32
I wish we just, we got to watch other seasons in our spare time.
00:38:37
We will.
00:38:38
We certainly will.
00:38:39
I'm really fired up, though.
00:38:40
Like I just can't wait.
00:38:42
There's a lot of reality TV coming our way.
00:38:44
So the next week is going to be a packed show.
00:38:45
We'll have more trainers.
00:38:46
We'll have to learn to do island and we'll have love island UK all stars on peacock.
00:38:51
Please watch it.
00:38:52
Everybody else just want to know.
00:38:53
I believe traders is sponsoring what just shows on the ringer podcast network right now.
00:38:56
There's nothing to do with that.
00:38:58
We're just excited about the traders forecast to offer so I feel like I've seen a lot of traders advertising.
00:39:03
So they put a lot of money into that.
00:39:06
I know.
00:39:07
I'm like, well, I'm like, do they even need it?
00:39:09
I feel like they have some pretty faithful following now.
00:39:11
It's also a good time.
00:39:12
There's not another reality show that's like really dominating conversation right now.
00:39:16
Yeah.
00:39:17
And like real house as a Salt Lake City is Salt Lake City is incredible.
00:39:21
Yeah.
00:39:22
It's got to be.
00:39:23
What's crazy is you didn't even want to watch this season.
00:39:26
Yeah.
00:39:27
It's like a, it's like a top five season of all time.
00:39:30
I agree with you.
00:39:31
I think it also the editing.
00:39:32
Well, it's the first.
00:39:33
It starts the women.
00:39:34
The editing is so well done.
00:39:36
The way that whoever puts the show together is so far superior to many of the other editors.
00:39:42
I've been going back and forth catching up between Beverly Hills and Salt Lake.
00:39:45
And Beverly Hills is like being in black and white.
00:39:48
And then Salt Lake City is like being on a drug trip at Coachella in full color.
00:39:53
This last episode, I watched with my best friend.
00:39:57
We had tears like crying laughing.
00:40:01
One of the most amazing things I've ever seen.
00:40:03
It was so feral.
00:40:04
It was so carnal.
00:40:05
The van.
00:40:06
The way they just all turned on Britney.
00:40:08
They just every single one of them, they're like going at each other and then they're all the sudden.
00:40:14
It's like all this like pack in fighting, all the lions clawing at each other.
00:40:17
And then they see another kind of animal, different species and they're all like, oh, no, it's all about you.
00:40:23
And they just go after her in such a unified way.
00:40:27
It's like this, it's like this carnal instinct that they all share in Britney sucks.
00:40:31
So it wasn't like that hard to watch.
00:40:33
I was glad it did feel a little bad for her when she was sobbing, but it was a lot out.
00:40:38
I was very much Mary when they were all like, oh, we feel so bad.
00:40:41
She's crying.
00:40:42
And then it like zoomed in on Mary and she was like, no, I don't feel bad for her.
00:40:45
She deserved it.
00:40:46
And I was like, it's kind of high felt.
00:40:48
Thank you Mary for validating my feelings.
00:40:50
I just want to be on the record about one thing.
00:40:52
I'm not part of the Mary redemption.
00:40:54
I'm just like, this is like TV like, this is the magic TV.
00:40:58
News what you're going to say, but sorry, but okay, I hope her son's okay.
00:41:01
I really hope he's okay.
00:41:02
I totally understand your feelings, but your feelings have nothing to do with the show.
00:41:09
If you do nothing about her, yeah, only watch the season.
00:41:13
If you only watched the show.
00:41:16
Not even just that.
00:41:17
I mean, yes, that was emotional.
00:41:19
But like this episode, like her addition to this cast is fucking amazing.
00:41:27
It is.
00:41:28
It's also the fact that she doesn't give a shit about anyone else what they think about her is so is the ultimate power it is the ultimate power they will be in a full argument about something and she'll be like,
00:41:40
where the fuck is my soup?
00:41:41
Like, it's so short of astronomy soup, which doesn't exist in Mexico.
00:41:49
She ordered it in Mexico, I mean, was it in Mexico?
00:41:52
Yeah, maybe.
00:41:53
And then when she said it, it was literally silent with each girl being like a strong soup, like, I don't know, no one also in the van, her being next to Meredith,
00:42:04
she's cracking up.
00:42:06
I want everyone to go back and watch when Meredith is full Missy Elliott in and out of the screen.
00:42:13
You need to go home.
00:42:15
You need to live.
00:42:17
You are by all next to her Mary is cracking up like full, like deep belly.
00:42:27
Laughing, which I'm like, that is me.
00:42:29
Like, I am laughing hard at Meredith, but everyone else takes it so seriously.
00:42:33
I know.
00:42:34
And Mary just being like, this is fucking hilarious.
00:42:37
And then at the very end, when you watch it like on TikTok, like the video, you hear Mary go, get her Meredith, it's so good.
00:42:47
Also Meredith this season, I'm like, do I love you?
00:42:49
Do I hate you?
00:42:50
Is it both the same time?
00:42:52
It's entertaining.
00:42:53
And it's a roller coaster.
00:42:54
Everyone, her being like, I only take sleeping pills, like on a cross-caldory fly.
00:43:00
I'm like, you're on a sleeping pill right now.
00:43:02
What are we talking about?
00:43:06
She is such a nutcase.
00:43:07
Also, she doesn't let anything go.
00:43:09
Like, it's just like Meredith let it go.
00:43:11
She never ever does.
00:43:12
I mean, it's done.
00:43:13
Pretty, like, Britney recording and also Angie's been like fucking amazing work this season.
00:43:20
Angie's my MVP.
00:43:21
Since the moment she donned the Greek flag to attend the Bucks game, I have loved this moment.
00:43:27
She's been in my heart.
00:43:28
She's been in my heart.
00:43:29
She's been in my heart.
00:43:30
Her seeing her record and then taking a second to be like, am I going to do this or not?
00:43:35
And then she was like, wait, wait, wait, wait, she's recording us.
00:43:40
Meredith was like, yes.
00:43:43
What Angie does.
00:43:44
Everyone is going to be against Britney now.
00:43:46
Like, she was so happy for this to happen.
00:43:49
But Angie really fucking weird, very fucking weird behavior.
00:43:53
I got to say two things.
00:43:55
Angie, first of all, I really appreciate how she, she does what producers want, but it doesn't feel like she like thinks she knows she's not like.
00:44:03
I'm not producing.
00:44:04
What did you say?
00:44:05
She's producing.
00:44:06
She's producing.
00:44:07
Yeah.
00:44:08
Yeah, she's being produced.
00:44:09
She's following Warner's and it's working.
00:44:10
So thank you so much.
00:44:12
I also need to thank Heather because Heather brings to the discourse things that we've all seen like rumored on TikTok or Reddit about like some of like the Mormon customs around sex.
00:44:24
And Heather just brings it to the fore speaks from her own experience with so much goose down.
00:44:29
But then it opened up the conversation for the rest of us and I honestly feel grateful for that.
00:44:35
I'm like, thank you Meredith.
00:44:36
I've heard about soaking.
00:44:37
I've never heard it spoken about by a former Mormon before and like all this other shit and I'm just like, that is a public service to the discourse.
00:44:43
So thank you, Heather.
00:44:44
Yeah, Whitney's kind of just like not needed at all.
00:44:48
Whitney's zero.
00:44:49
I'm going to move on from Whitney.
00:44:50
Yeah, yeah.
00:44:51
She bring absolutely nothing for me.
00:44:53
But Heather, while she has been annoying, she also has like, she just kind of moves the plot along.
00:45:00
She brings it up.
00:45:01
She says enough.
00:45:02
In the van, she's screaming, you don't record your friends while they're fighting in a sprinter van.
00:45:09
And like, I didn't know that was a rule that everyone.
00:45:14
I should know, but like how she was screaming it at the top of her lungs.
00:45:20
I was just like, it, that was the van scene to me.
00:45:26
I said, I said this on Ring of Reality, morally crap.
00:45:29
If they just cut and was like seasons over, when they got off the van, I would have been like, I get it.
00:45:35
That was can't top it.
00:45:36
You just can't top it.
00:45:37
Yeah, I mean, somehow they're topping it with the Lisa look alike, which I also think was amazing.
00:45:44
And I cannot wait to watch it.
00:45:46
But like, wow, what a fucking season.
00:45:49
It's, it's a powerhouse.
00:45:50
I agree.
00:45:51
It's one of the best seasons of all time.
00:45:52
Also, everyone's really coming to their own and they're all willing to fight with each other.
00:45:57
And then as we saw, turn on a dime to protect their code.
00:46:00
Just like together.
00:46:01
It's like they're on fucking like the top of Mount Sinai and they're like reading the tablets to us.
00:46:06
You do not record your friends while they're fighting in a sprinter van.
00:46:10
They act like this is like, they're like in a fucking mob and like, they have rules they live by.
00:46:18
And when you break a rule, it's a big fucking problem.
00:46:22
Like everyone is mad at everyone and then Brittany broke a rule and Meredith, aka Tony Soprano was like, no.
00:46:33
You get killed for that.
00:46:34
Where I'm off.
00:46:35
If you could only pick one person to be on your side in the fight, who would you pick?
00:46:38
I think.
00:46:39
It's really hard.
00:46:41
It's really tough.
00:46:42
It's really hard.
00:46:43
I think.
00:46:44
It's not married.
00:46:45
It's for me.
00:46:46
I'm just going to throw that out there.
00:46:47
No.
00:46:48
She's not like, quick enough.
00:46:50
I think Lisa or Mary goes for the jugular and says Mary would abandon you.
00:47:00
Mary would not say that by your side.
00:47:02
I don't know.
00:47:03
I don't think she's ever abandoning Angie.
00:47:05
She loves Angie with everything in her.
00:47:06
They actually, they're a friendship is the sweetest thing to me about Mary, honestly.
00:47:09
It is cute.
00:47:10
I fucking love Angie so much.
00:47:13
I love.
00:47:14
I have to say.
00:47:15
We watch these shows all the time, I mean, I don't know who knows how many hours we've spent watching rob a housewives.
00:47:22
It's sickening, obviously.
00:47:23
Yeah.
00:47:24
Since 2006, we're coming up on 20 years.
00:47:26
Yeah, I don't even want to discuss because that's like so much time wasted, but it's not wasted.
00:47:31
And I think it is amazing that Angie has not told a single fucking soul about Mary's son.
00:47:38
I know.
00:47:39
It is amazing.
00:47:40
Like, these are the shows where even if they don't say anything that they will be on camera telling one other person or something like that, they'll make it into a storyline.
00:47:48
And I love that Angie not only has not made it a storyline, not has not talked about it at all with not anyone else on the cast, but also doesn't even bring it up with Mary.
00:47:59
Like, she's like, we can talk about it.
00:48:01
Like, I'm here.
00:48:02
But like, we can pretend nothing's happening.
00:48:03
Like, I am not going to be the one to bring this into this show.
00:48:06
Angie is clearly like really committed to her family.
00:48:09
Like, and they all claim to be, but I think Angie is like kind of the most in a way.
00:48:15
Her relationship with her dad is really sweet.
00:48:17
You know, I think her, I mean, they all make fun of her being like so attached to her one daughter.
00:48:21
And I'm like, that's that's normal mom behavior.
00:48:24
Yeah.
00:48:25
Totally.
00:48:26
Like, Angie is just so great because there is like this underlying sweetness to her, but she's also totally a maniac and like very fun for television.
00:48:34
I love her.
00:48:35
And also, I'm so happy that she rebounded.
00:48:37
Like, she sucked when she was like, and now she's awesome.
00:48:40
I mean, she's sitting next to Angie at the reunion.
00:48:42
I just think that if Mary would have told anyone else on the cast, everyone would know.
00:48:48
Yeah.
00:48:49
Heather, she's like, Heather, everyone would have known within an hour.
00:48:51
Yeah.
00:48:52
Heather would be like, I'm producing.
00:48:53
But I'm so glad I could see maybe keeping it in if they were actually friends.
00:48:58
I could see Bronwyn not telling anyone else because it's such a serious thing.
00:49:01
And obviously like she's gone through her own like family dynamic stuff.
00:49:05
I could see Bronwyn not telling anyone else, but I could see Bronwyn like bringing it up to Mary.
00:49:10
Like how's everything with your son like on camera?
00:49:12
Yeah.
00:49:13
I think it's great that Angie's like, like you, I'm not going to be the one to say anything.
00:49:17
Yeah.
00:49:18
It's all on you.
00:49:19
Yeah.
00:49:20
It speaks to who she's as a mom too.
00:49:21
It's your point.
00:49:22
Yeah.
00:49:23
Like she just like really, like that's like a very sacred Bronwyn.
00:49:25
We haven't talked about her.
00:49:27
She's deeply troubled.
00:49:28
I love her.
00:49:29
I root for her.
00:49:30
I like Bronwyn.
00:49:33
She is like an all star casting to me.
00:49:37
I really hope she's not just one season.
00:49:38
People online speculate she's just one season.
00:49:40
People think she's one season because of her husband, but on watch what happens live, her husband was like, whatever she wants to do.
00:49:47
I'm cool with it.
00:49:48
Like I come across a certain way.
00:49:50
I'm good with whatever she wants.
00:49:53
And he has been very like, yeah, I was kind of an asshole.
00:49:55
Like I'm not going to watch myself and say I was perfect.
00:49:57
I like that he's not like real.
00:50:00
Yeah, he's like, yeah, sometimes I am like that.
00:50:04
It's not good.
00:50:05
I need to be better.
00:50:06
And I like that he's not like, well, you know, the camera has make it seem.
00:50:09
No, they're both like, this is kind of who we are.
00:50:12
And Bronwyn said she's like, I kind of learned that you're not supposed to be like that.
00:50:15
I thought you're supposed to like talk about like what's happening in your real life.
00:50:19
And like, I found out that no one does that.
00:50:22
Right.
00:50:23
That's deep learning curve from Bronwyn.
00:50:27
All right, everybody on that note, first of all, don't forget to check out our show notes.
00:50:31
So you can donate to the black families in Altsadena who need your support.
00:50:36
We'll be back next week talking traders, love Island, all stars, UK.
00:50:40
I guess deal or no deal Island and who knows what else.
00:50:43
And lastly, thank you to our producer, Olivia Creary.
00:50:46
Have a great week.
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And LA, we're thinking of you.
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