This episode features a story by, and an interview with, Gracia Dyer Jalea about channelling the stories of our ancestors. 

Gracia is an award-winning change leader, founder, and mother of twins. Her work as an artist and researcher focuses on transnational learning and storytelling as a means for community building, connection, and personal and social transformation. Gracia has a podcast called Meet Me in the Square, which you can find on various platforms.

Gracia told this story live on the Centaur stage in May 2022.
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Produced and hosted : Matt Goldberg and Deb Vanslet
Post production: Deb Vanslet

Theme song: Can't Have You by Bent by Elephants from their album This is Water.
Additional music : Epidemic Sound