In this episode, Tony Doherty sits down with AFL royalty Denis Pagan for a raw and inspiring conversation about one of the most iconic careers in Australian coaching. From his early days as a player to his legendary coaching run, including North Melbourne’s 1996 and 1999 premierships. Denis reflects on the highs, the heartbreaks, and the hard lessons along the way. With candid stories, deep insights, and plenty of laughs, this episode is a masterclass in resilience, grit, and the mindset it takes to succeed at the top.

Whether you're a footy fan or just love a great underdog story, this one's not to be missed.