In this episode...

Booting high on community energy! In this special in-person episode, recorded on-site at the Microsoft Campus during the MVP Summit 2025, Koos and Chris share behind-the-scenes insights, tech trends, and reflections on the evolving security landscape—all while dodging T-shirt printers and Summit buzz.

Full show notes available on our blog: https://df3ndr.io/episodes/2025/04/03/01x05_DEVICEHIGH=MVPSUMMIT.SYS.html

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