Four is a magic number... This is Tuesday Night Drinks, Episode 4. Part 2. This week, against his better judgement, Owen’s good friend and newly appointed dating expert Michele Durman (@michdurman) joins the podcast as TND's first ever guest co-host. Join the trinity as they discuss how they feel about dating apps, share experiences they’ve had over the years and clarify that it’s not Michael or Owen swiping right for anyone called Dave.

This week's episode is split into 2 parts as all this drunken chat just couldn't fit into 1 hour. If you missed it, part 1 is available before you listen to this second part.

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Tuesday Night Drinks is presented by Owen Dryden (@owendryden) and Michael Symons (@michaeljohnsymons). Made with care in London, England.