On this episode, Marc talks with Frans de Waard, author of “America’s Greatest Noise,” published in July of 2024 by Frans’s own imprint, Korm Plastics. It’s the story of Ron Lessard, founder of RRRecords in Massachusetts, which he ran from the mid-80s until 2009. 

It's a story told in Lessard’s own words, compiled by de Waard from a series of Skype conversations the pair had over the past year. There are so many fascinating and often hilarious stories about how Lessard put together his releases, including some uniquely odd projects that helped define the noise scene of the past 40 years. 

As Frans writes, “I learned a lot and we laughed a lot about noise musicians, releases, quirks, anti-records, concerts, and so much more. Here’s a man who enjoys a joke and whose releases sometimes have a humorous streak, yet at the same time he is serious concerning the release of records and creating noise music.”

We hope you enjoy Marc's conversation with Frans de Waard!