Feb 22 2024 - www.netzer.org/gather

Sometimes when we help in our own strength, we hurt others.

The Quiet Reformation is a space of listening for God through the Bible and the Body of Christ, desiring change in the Church, but without the chaos. This podcast is a small part of the ministry of Netzer. Netzer works intimately with Christian leaders and speaks widely to the Church at large about spiritual renewal. We are a donor supported 501c3 ministry. Please visit netzer.org to donate and find out more. // Tim Doering (vision+networking) and Justin Ryan Boyer (producer)

[01:14 ] Happy New Year! May the Gospel tranform your relationships.

[03:42 ] One Church Leaders Gathering Sheraton Hotel Valley Forge, PA

[05:00 ] We experience the kingdom of God moving when people function out of what God has put in their heart, more than functioning in a position in an organization.

[07:33 ] FOCUS Tension: principle and presence

[09:40 ] MOTIVATION Tension: reality and possibility

[11:49 ] Think about your ministry and where you lean in these tensions. If only focusing out on your own focus and motivation, be aware of the limits of your ministry.

[13:30 ] Dangers, gaps, and pitfalls...

• Over-Promising = Presence + Possibility (lacks principle, reality)


• Enabling = Presence + Reality (lacks principle, possibility


• Commiserating = Principle + Reality (lacks presence, possibility)


• Shame = Principle + Possibility (lacks presence, reality)

[18:49 ] Avoiding Imbalances in Ministry

• Acknowledge to self that we're not going to be perfect; don't let the fear of getting it wrong, debilitate you from ministrering.


• Admit to what our weak spots are to others.


• Find compliment partners to collaborate with in ministry, even if difficult.


• Recognize above all else that what people really need is not you but is the person of Jesus Christ.

[22:40 ] We're trying to introduce people, even those who have a longstanding relationship with God, each day to the living Christ.