We have an excellent conversation about a not-excellent episode! During their discussion on S1E19, “How Can You Be Sure?,” they chat about sex vs. love, the human condition, Brooke’s and Lucas’ cringeworthy pregnancy scare, Dan’s reveal that he wanted Karen to abort Lucas (and Dan’s secret paternal feelings), Nicki’s very strange confrontation with Peyton, and Karen and Keith’s respective wake-up calls. We’re Kaitlyn Ilinitch (@MissIReads) and Jeremy Rodriguez (@RodriguezJeremy) and you can find Always and Forever on Twitter, Instagram and Facebook @alwaysothpod or email us at alwaysothpod@gmail.com.

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