This is Part 2 of my conversation with Ben, so if you haven’t heard Part 1, I’d recommend you go back and check it out for context. This episode contains what I hope to present as the message of this podcast experiment - To take a risk and chase something that you care about; how you can take what you already know, and figure out the next part of your journey - without romanticising, without downplaying, how scary and difficult making those decisions can be.

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