In episode 10 of the GEMMA podcast, GEMMA intern Odysseus Quarles reviews the discovery and naming of Pōniuāʻena, the second-most-distant quasar discovered to date, and the oldest known billion-solar-mass quasar in the universe.

Special thanks to the ʻImiloa Astronomy Center, for allowing us to use audio from their interviews with Jason Chu, Kaʻiu Kimura, Larry Kimura, and John O’Meara, and for leading the A Hua He Inoa program to unite cultural leaders, astronomers and students to share traditional knowledge with modern astronomical research.