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10. Perimenopause: Identity Shift with Sundae Bean

10. Perimenopause: Identity Shift with Sundae Bean

Update: 2025-09-22
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In this episode of Our Womanity features a conversation with Sundae Bean, a transformation facilitator who supports individuals and organizations as they traverse through life quakes and other major shifts. A trusted voice for navigating life between worlds, Sundae is currently dedicated to organizational transformation in Switzerland and is widely known for her podcast, IN TRANSIT.

Perimenopause: A Biological Transition

Sundae explains perimenopause as an externally led transition—something that happens to you, not something you choose. This can overlap with other life transitions:

  • Internally Led: Changes that come from within.
  • Performance Led: Pursuing a big goal, like a promotion.
  • Externally Led: Changes that come from our environments.

She emphasizes the importance of distinguishing between a genuine emotional response and a biochemical one, noting that while feelings are real, their source may be hormonal rather than a true reflection of your reality.

Strategies for Navigating Hormonal Shifts

Sundae offers practical advice to help manage symptoms like "monkey mind":

  • Reality Check and Blood Check: Use this dual approach to test what's truly going on. Talk to a trusted friend to get an outside perspective, and work with your doctor to get yourself evaluated .
  • Trust Your Body: Sundae shares her own experience of listening to her body's "yummy yes" for yoga over a "hard no" for running. This highlights the importance of trusting your body's needs over external advice.
  • Find Your Body Compass: To counter feeling out of control, she suggests a simple exercise: take three deep breaths and hold the fourth until you can feel your own heartbeat. This grounds you and gets you out of your head.

Perimenopause as a Growth Opportunity

While difficult, perimenopause can be a time for growth.

  • Self-Advocacy: It may force you to become your own best advocate, taking charge of your health when the system feels unsupportive.
  • Adapting Strategies: Acknowledge that old strategies might not work now. A coach can help you develop new approaches.
  • Bending Reality: Sundae encourages listeners to honestly assess where they might be "bending reality"—acting as if there are more than 24 hours in a day. This awareness is the first step toward delegating and prioritizing.

Advice for Healthcare Providers

Sundae offers advice for healthcare providers to better support their patients.

  • Listen to the Patient: Ask, "How have you been?" to understand the full context of their life.
  • Validate Their Experience: Don't dismiss symptoms. A simple, "That sounds hard," can be incredibly validating.

Refer When Needed: If you cannot provide the necessary care, refer patients to a coach or other specialist.

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10. Perimenopause: Identity Shift with Sundae Bean

10. Perimenopause: Identity Shift with Sundae Bean

Dr. Rachel Pope