Seja talks to her guests Dave Graney and Clare Moore about their upcoming 30th anniversary shows for the album The Soft ’n’ Sexy Sound. They tell Seja memories of playing festivals over the years, about staying in squats in London, and the rivalry and close community with their musical peers the Go-Betweens, Kim Salmon, the Scientists, the Boys Next Door and the Triffids. They chat about album production, advocates at record labels, clever and funny titles, and how all the best people are creative creeps.

Dave and Clare’s strange show story was illustrated by Seja. All illustrations can be seen on instagram @hearsejpodcast or on the HearSej Facebook page.