How DevOps has Changed QA

Keep an eye on the latest trends in this CTO podcast episode featuring Hannes Lenke (CEO and Co-founder of Checkly). Hannes shares insights from over a decade of shaping the testing and monitoring landscape. From AI-powered mobile testing to cloud-based browser testing to synthetic monitoring, he has seen it all.
Listen to find out:
👀 What is "Monitoring as Code"? How does it differ from traditional observability?
🔄 Has DevOps changed QA forever? Is there still a place for dedicated QA teams in an automated world?
🚀 How did Checkly evolve into a PLG company with a sales team?
⚙️ How do they run customer code at scale across 21 global data centers?

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Timestamps

(00:00 ) – Introduction to Alphalist Podcast
(02:05 ) – Meet Hannes Lenke
(05:13 ) – Hiring the Right People
(07:50 ) – Hannes’s Journey into Computing
(12:30 ) – TestObject: AI for Mobile Testing in the Early 2010s
(16:33 ) – Globalizing a Berlin-Based Business
(21:01 ) – The Birth of Checkly and Monitoring as Code
(23:00 ) – How DevOps Changed QA
(30:52 ) – The Right Observability Stack for SaaS
(37:39 ) – Cross-Functional Teams vs. Dedicated QA
(43:10 ) – Challenges of Executing Customer Code at Scale
(49:08 ) – How Teams are Arranged at Checkly
(50:51 ) – PLG with Enterprise Sales
(53:52 ) – Lessons Learned as a Second-Time Founder: Pace Yourself

About Hannes Lenke

Hannes is the co-founder of Checkly. former CEO and Founder of TestObject and General Manager EMEA Sauce Labs. Addicted to devops and passionate about all things tech.

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