Jamal Simmons interviews Rep. Wiley Nickel, discussing his journey to Congress, the challenges of gerrymandering, and the strategies he employed to connect with voters in a diverse district. Nickel proposes the idea of a shadow cabinet to hold the Trump administration accountable and emphasizes the importance of focusing on economic issues that resonate with middle-class voters. 



Nayyera joins Jamal to discuss the current state of the Democratic Party, the importance of bold leadership, and the need for trust in government institutions. The dialogue emphasizes the importance of credible leadership and the challenges faced by the party in addressing the needs of its constituents.