"All the facts of science aren't enough to understand the world's meaning. For this, you must step outside the world."

Welcome back to another episode of Made You Think! In this episode, we're adventuring into the world of Logicomix, a graphic novel that takes us on a journey through the intricate life of mathematician Bertrand Russell. From the quest for precision that borders on madness to the historical events Russell was embroiled in, we'll explore the complexities of logic, philosophy, and mathematics.

We cover a wide range of topics including:

• Why seeking precision in understanding the world can drive one mad
• Bertrand Russell's historical involvements and achievements
• The rapid progress of aviation and technology
• How mathematics, logic, and philosophy remain connected
• Discovering the lives and contributions of various mathematicians

And much more. Please enjoy, and make sure to follow Nat, Neil, and Adil on Twitter and share your thoughts on the episode.

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Mentioned in the Show:

• Prolific (1:06 )
• Agrippan Trilemma (12:33 )
• Münchhausen Trilemma (13:04 )
• Kate Middleton photo (30:48 )
• House of Lords (32:06 )
• The Flaw in Gödel’s proof (57:59 )
• Arnold (1:03:50 )
• Political ETFs (1:13:49 )

Books Mentioned:

• Logicomix
• East of Eden (0:03 ) (Nat's Book Notes)
• Of Mice and Men (0:21 )
• The Grapes of Wrath (0:22 )
• Watchmen (6:10 )
• V for Vendetta (6:11 )
• In Praise of Idleness (7:12 ) (Book Episode) (Nat's Book Notes)
• Gödel, Escher, Bach (12:01 ) (Book Episode) (Nat’s Book Notes)
• The First World War (36:16 )
• The Second World War (36:16 )
• Banana King (1:00:45 )
• Chip War (1:01:01 )
• The Prize (1:01:23 )
• Bad Therapy (1:02:46 )
• Kon-Tiki (1:08:17 )
• Endurance (1:09:40 )

People Mentioned:

• Apostolos Doxiadis
• Christos Papadimitriou
• John Steinbeck (0:01 )
• Bertrand Russell (6:51 )
• Kurt Gödel (14:46 )
• Ludwig Wittgenstein (20:49 )
• Jordan Peterson (53:03 )

Show Topics:

(0:00 ) We kick off the episode by sharing John Steinbeck's journal writing process for East of Eden, his collaborative relationship with his publisher, and how he landed on the title. 

(5:25 ) Though we are not talking about East of Eden today (but...stay tuned for that episode up next!), we're covering Logicomix, a graphic novel by Apostolos Doxiadis and Christos Papadimitriou.

(8:16 ) We give an overview of the book and how it shares different intricacies and stories from Bertrand Russell's life. From his parents being in a throuple to schizophrenia running in his family, we try to decipher which parts were real vs. fabricated.

(10:36 ) Why you shouldn't necessarily look for precision and formal rules about how the world works. We tie this idea into Taoism which we’ve seen commonly in a few of our other recent reads. In short, no system can fully explain itself. You need to step outside of it.

(13:42 ) Is it possible to build a perfect map of everything that mathematics entails? We talk about the connection between logic, philosophy, and mathematics. 

(20:25 ) There were several mathematicians in the book. How many of them are you familiar with?

(23:36 ) Russell's involvement in a variety of historical events from the Cuban Missile Crisis to JFK's assassination, as he was not convinced that Oswald was guilty of the crime. 

(28:34 ) If you've been up-to-date with the news lately, you may be just as interested in the Kate Middleton conspiracies as we are. Tangent time!

(31:38 ) Russell was sat in the House of Lords, a chamber of UK Parliament which is generally not up for election. Plus, we brainstorm some ideas of who would be considered Bertrand Russell’s equivalent in the US.

(36:48 ) We dive in to some different historical events and wars. The Ottoman Empire, World War 1 and 2, the Persian Gulf War, and how warfare and aircraft carriers changed during these ages. 

(41:26 ) Aviation and its rapid improvements in technology in such a short span of time.

(45:07 ) "Shouldn't we get back to the book?" Nat, Neil, and Adil discuss some of the main concepts from the book, including the pursuit of truth in the world of mathematics. You're never going to fully understand reality, but for some, that's a hard truth that they don't want to accept.

(49:44 ) What does it mean to know, and how can you be justified in knowing something? Remember, a belief can be true while at the same time not satisfying the conditions of logic. 

(56:05 ) Unlike the other mathematicians discussed in the book, Gödel constructed a proof to his theorem that hasn’t yet been disproven. Regardless of whether their desires for absol