This week in the Stage Door Athletic clubhouse, Rob is joined by his pal and award-winning movement director, choreographer and intimacy director, Ingrid Mackinnon — one of the most compelling creative forces working in British theatre today.

Ingrid reflects on a journey that spans Canadian dance competitions, cruise ships, the West End, and some of the most talked-about productions on UK stages. As an intimacy director for the Jamie Lloyd Company, she’s helped shape the physical storytelling of shows including Romeo & Juliet, Sunset Boulevard, Much Ado About Nothing and Evita — working closely with actors to create intimacy that is bold, repeatable, and rooted in trust.

But this is also a conversation about sport, parenting, and identity. Ingrid talks candidly about becoming a football mum on the touchlines of South London, what her own childhood training in dance taught her about discipline and belonging, and what she hopes football gives her son beyond the scoreline. From Bromley FC to ballet studios, Alvin Ailey to All Dressed chips, this episode explores how movement, empathy and joy connect performance and sport.

Along the way, Ingrid shares her philosophy of inclusive movement, low-ego leadership, and why kindness, clarity and collaboration are not “soft” skills — they’re essential ones.

A wide-ranging, funny and thoughtful conversation about bodies, boundaries, teamwork and what it means to move — on stage, on the pitch, and through life.

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Hosts: Jack Loxton & Rob Shaw Cameron
Producer: James Court
Edited by: Rob Shaw Cameron
Guest: Ingrid Mackinnon

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