Dan talks about building a SaaS platform, all the while joined by Haddie to discuss a listener email about the challenges of breaking into a new career and unpaid internships, changing the way you ask for feedback, and just being open about things.

Links for this episode:

• Is the open office layout dead? | | Dropbox Blog
  
• How to Recognize Burnout Before You’re Burned Out - The New York Times
  
• When Is It OK to Not Pay an Intern? — ProPublica
  
• Unlock honest feedback with this one word – Signal v. Noise
  
• Modula - Wikipedia
  
• 5by5 | Killing Time
  

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