We’re kicking off a brand-new season of A Million Little TV Shows Podcast with a deep dive into the shadowy world of Mindhunter—and trust us, it’s not light viewing.

In Episodes 1 through 3, we meet Holden and Bill, two FBI agents trying to bring psychology into criminal investigations, long before “serial killer” was even a household phrase. We’re talking about the unsettling interviews, the brilliant (and terrifying) Ed Kemper, and how the show makes conversations in beige rooms some of the most chilling TV you’ll ever watch.

Plus, we get into Holden’s obsession (red flag much?), Bill’s weariness, and Wendy’s arrival—aka the moment the team starts to feel complete. And of course, we ask the big question: how far can you go into the darkness without bringing it back with you?

It’s smart. It’s scary. And we may never look at an empty interview room the same way again. 🖤🕵️‍♂️🔪

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