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119 - Butterfly Goo and Other F-ing Metaphors for Change with Rachel Burr

119 - Butterfly Goo and Other F-ing Metaphors for Change with Rachel Burr

Update: 2025-07-01
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In this episode of “I Need To F*ing Talk To You,”** Ken Cameron sits down with Rachel Burr — executive coach, leadership consultant, and author of Butterfly Goo: The Down and Dirty Truth of Transformation. With over 20 years of experience and a sharp sense of humour, Rachel helps leaders navigate the squishy, messy middle of change — the part no one likes to talk about but everyone has to go through.

What You’ll Learn in This Episode:

  • The Difference Between Being Direct and Being a Jerk: Rachel explains how to cut through the noise without cutting people down.
  • Why Feelings Aren’t Fluff: Emotions are information, and leaders who ignore their inner world are missing half the data.
  • How to Own Your Sh*t: Real leadership means accountability — and yes, that means admitting when you’ve messed up.
  • Rachel’s Most Difficult Conversation: Hear the story of when she walked into her boss’s office and said, “You need to fire me.” (Spoiler: It changed everything.)

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119 - Butterfly Goo and Other F-ing Metaphors for Change with Rachel Burr

119 - Butterfly Goo and Other F-ing Metaphors for Change with Rachel Burr

Ken Cameron & Russell Stratton