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147. Is Thorin Gold-Sick or Just Sick of the Elves – The Hobbit #32

147. Is Thorin Gold-Sick or Just Sick of the Elves – The Hobbit #32

Update: 2025-09-30
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The talking birds bring news of the dragon’s demise to the dwarves–only to find a host of elves and men are coming to the mountain’s gate. Bard makes his claim for a portion of the treasure, but Thorin finds his reasons lacking–or is it just his lust for the treasure overtaking him?


This episode, we look at:



  • More (very old) talking birds

  • Thorin’s “dragon sickness” — or is it his dwarven heart?

  • Bard’s three reasons for having a claim to the treasure

  • Who’s at fault for starting the battle?df

  • What effect does the elves’ presence have on Thorin’s response?


In our extended episode (available for our members) we talk about:



  • Are we warming up to how Peter Jackson portrayed Thorin’s dragon sickness? Well….

  • How Thorin’s change in the films lessens his deathbed turn in the books.

  • The most egregious change in The Hobbit films is…


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147. Is Thorin Gold-Sick or Just Sick of the Elves – The Hobbit #32

147. Is Thorin Gold-Sick or Just Sick of the Elves – The Hobbit #32