In today’s episode we have a delightful talk with Kate & Betsy’s 19-year-old sons who just completed their first year of college and are home for the summer.  We had no idea where this conversation was headed, but we found ourselves more smitten than usual with these engaging, bright, and wise young men who both expressed a heart for making a difference in this world.

Today we discuss:

• Jack and Pieter’s first 10 years and what they remember most.


• Their adjustment to college and settling into independence, connecting with people, and making friends.


• What challenges and main issues their generation is facing: the big one TECHNOLOGY.


• Their perspectives on Gen Z and mental health.


• Gender wars and how these young men see it is different in the virtual world vs the real world.


• Their hopes and fears about the future.


• What they thought of their moms while growing up, and whether they have seen anything different since their moms started rewilding.

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Past Episodes You Might Like with Kate & Betsy Interviewing Men (there haven’t been many!):

Episode 132: Your Soul’s Purpose with Rod Stryker

Episode 58: Part I with Shannon Algeo: Trust Your Truth & Heal Your Lineage

Episode 59:  Part II with Shannon Algeo: Follow Your Heart & Not Your Smart Phone 

Episode 36: Steve Shiva: An Example of an Integrated Man

Today’s Episode sponsored by:

Kate Moreland Coaching

Dr Yoga Momma

Heartland Yoga

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