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168. The Hidden Gifts of Perfectionism: What Ambitious Women Need to Know with Katherine Morgan Schafler

168. The Hidden Gifts of Perfectionism: What Ambitious Women Need to Know with Katherine Morgan Schafler

Update: 2025-11-25
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Do you ever feel like your perfectionism is something you need to fix? What if the truth is the opposite—that your perfectionism holds real power?

 

In this episode, Whitney talks with Katherine Morgan Schafler, psychotherapist and author of The Perfectionist's Guide to Losing Control: A Path to Peace and Power. Katherine challenges the cultural narrative that perfectionism is a flaw and instead shows how, when understood and channeled well, it can be a meaningful strength.

 

Katherine explains the difference between adaptive and maladaptive perfectionism, how perfectionism shows up differently for women, and why many of us feel caught between our ambition and the pressure to soften it. She also outlines the five types of perfectionists so listeners can recognize their own patterns, strengths and red flags.

 

Listen in to rethink what perfectionism really is—and learn how to work with your drive instead of against it.

 

Here's what you can look forward to in this episode:

  • Redefining perfectionism in modern discourse

  • Why women are watering down their perfectionist tendencies when men are unconcerned

  • The 5 different types of perfectionists

  • Aligning your actions to your core values

Reflection questions to ponder: What do I want for you?

 

Join Back to Bright, a 1:1 personalized, four-week coaching experience where I'll guide you in creating sustainable rhythms of rest, joy, and self-connection.

 

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Connect with Whitney: Instagram l Website l 5 Days to Less Stress, More Satisfaction l Tend to Your Soul Toolkit l 10 Soulful Journaling Prompts | Electric Ideas Podcast

 

Connect with Katherine: Instagram | Website | Book: The Perfectionist's Guide to Losing Control | Quiz: Get Your Perfectionist Profile 

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168. The Hidden Gifts of Perfectionism: What Ambitious Women Need to Know with Katherine Morgan Schafler

168. The Hidden Gifts of Perfectionism: What Ambitious Women Need to Know with Katherine Morgan Schafler

Whitney Baker