DiscoverCareer Clarity with Athletes: A 2ndwind Podcast with Ryan Gonsalves170: Jamie Soward - From NRL Premierships to Ego and Finding Purpose in Government (and $6,000 toilets)
170: Jamie Soward - From NRL Premierships to Ego and Finding Purpose in Government (and $6,000 toilets)

170: Jamie Soward - From NRL Premierships to Ego and Finding Purpose in Government (and $6,000 toilets)

Update: 2025-10-21
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Jamie Soward opens up about chasing the footy dream without a clear pathway, losing it all twice, and what it really took to reinvent himself. From writing résumés at 16 to training while on the dole, to playing in front of 60,000 fans and then selling toilets, Jamie's journey is as humbling as it is honest.

He’s played State of Origin, won a grand final, coached at the top level — and then had it all fall apart. But what came next? A traineeship. In water regulation. At 40.

If you've ever found yourself starting again or afraid to, this conversation will speak to you.


What You’ll Hear:

  • Why Jamie sent a résumé with his highlight tape and why it worked
  • How working full-time while chasing a dream taught him discipline
  • Why being dropped to part-time felt scarier than losing games
  • What it felt like to sell toilets after a career in the spotlight
  • Why a rookie mindset helped him succeed in a completely new field
  • How he’s using his story to create job pathways for Indigenous athletes
  • Why being judged only on Sunday is dangerous and what it means to win during the week

💎 GOLDEN NUGGET:

 “In sport, you’re judged on Sunday. But in life, you can win on Monday. On Wednesday. On Friday. You just have to be willing to start over and redefine what a win looks like.” 


This episode isn’t just about one man’s career. It’s about how we find clarity in chaos, humility after status, and build a legacy through service, not spotlight.

If you’re navigating a transition, whether from sport, from identity, or from what you thought your life was going to be, let Jamie’s story remind you that starting again might be the beginning you never expected but always needed.


Need Career Clarity or Transition Support? 

If you are navigating what is next in sport or beyond, visit www.2ndwind.io
to learn more or book a consult.

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170: Jamie Soward - From NRL Premierships to Ego and Finding Purpose in Government (and $6,000 toilets)

170: Jamie Soward - From NRL Premierships to Ego and Finding Purpose in Government (and $6,000 toilets)

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