The Plug (0:57 ).

The Interview (3:12 ).

'Black sheep' is an idiom used to describe a member of a group who doesn’t fit in with the rest. Now while this is often used with a negative connotation, I feel there’s a flipside to this concept that can be a positive. Where not exactly fitting into any one group can allow you to pull from many different influences, and combine that all together into something one-of one.

This is a dynamic I spoke about with today’s guest, Cakes da Killa, who is a prime example of how this dynamic works as a positive. In this episode, we discuss Cakes' journey as an artist, his approach to blending different sounds together, and how he approached the creation of his super entertaining and well-executed new album, Black Sheep.

Cakes da Killa’s MC journey (3:36 ).

Openness in Cakes’ music (8:06 ).

Blending dance genres with hip-hop (9:41 ).

How Cakes’ queer identity manifests in his music (14:04 ).

Advice Cakes would give to aspiring musicians (19:29 ).

How visuals are integrated in Cakes’ creative process (24:07 ).

Cakes da Killa’s black sheep’ identity (25:54 ).

How Cakes and Sam Katz approached the sound for Black Sheep (34:32 ).

Upcoming music / tour dates / merch from Cakes da Killa (39:23 ).

Stream/buy Black Sheep here: https://cakesdakilla.bandcamp.com/album/black-sheep 

Follow Cakes da Killa on Twitter here: https://x.com/CAKESDAKILLA 

Follow Cakes da Killa on Instagram here: https://www.instagram.com/cakesdakilla/?hl=en 

Video animation by: Big Flowers

Intro/Outro beat by: BLOODBLIXING

Photo in artwork by: Matt Nelson

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