How do we understand hope as something within ourselves, and not as a far off horizon?

A conversation with anti-oppressive therapist and educator Leah Manaema Avene on their expansive practice rooted in abolition, love, repair and the strategies to transform harmful power dynamics in bodies, relationships and systems. A sprawling dialogue spanning themes of rupture, hope, and the will to keep moving towards revolution.

Image: Leah Avene by Amos Gebhardt part of an interview series MÅNGATA and photography exhibition.

This episode was hosted, produced and edited by Shareeka Helaluddin. Podcast edit by Yvonne Hong. 

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