#18 - Cathan Kabrelian on Compassionate Communication with Ourselves and Others
Description
In this episode of The Learning and Performance Podcast, I speak with the late Cathan Kabrelian, a leading expert in compassionate communication. Cathan was a trainer, speaker, retreat leader, and mentor, known for integrating compassionate communication into a wide range of fields, from education to corporate environments. Through her work as a trauma-informed Needs-Awareness Trainer, Certified Mindfulness Instructor, and Breath Coach, Cathan brought a unique depth to understanding and teaching not only effective communication skills but the self-awareness skills to transform conversations and relationships at work, at home, and in all those third spaces. Together, Cathan and I discussed why compassionate communication matters and how you can use it to live a more self-aware, wonderful, and connected life.
Key Topics
In the conversation, we hit on a number of interesting topics relevant to learning and performance, including:
- What is compassionate or non-violent communication, and why is it important
 - The importance of feelings and needs awareness to life and relationships
 - The OFNR framework of observation, feelings, needs, requests
 - How to translate thoughts and judgments into needs
 - Feelings as a “radar” for detecting what we need
 - Shifting from blaming others to identifying our own values and needs
 - Why self-connection is necessary to connect with others
 - Three ways to navigate challenging feelings
 - Two ways to practice compassionate communication - formal and real-life
 - Using compassionate communication at work
 - And much more...
 
Learn More About Cathan and NVC
- Cathan's website
 - In Loving Memory
 - NVC by Marshall Rosenberg
 - New York Center for NVC
 - The Compassion Course by Thom Bond and team
 
Notes,Mentions, and Resources
- Identity - not just WHO we are or WHAT we do or believe but HOW we are
 - Performance - achieving tasks towards a goal with creativity, skill, and compassionate consideration of needs
 - Learning - understanding something better than we did before
 - Learning-Performance "Loops" - Learn, Practice, Perform.
 - Compassionate/Non-Violent Communication (NVC)
 - Needs awareness
 - Non-Violent Communication (NVC) by Marshall Rosenberg
 - OFNR Framework - Observations, Feelings, Needs, Requests
 - Observations - what we notice about ourselves, others, and the world
 - Feelings - sensations stimulated by met or unmet needs
 - Needs - universal life impulses; drivers of actions
 - Requests/Strategies - ways to meet our needs
 - Compassion Course Online
 - The Compassion Book by Thom Bond
 - NY Center for NVC (NYCNVC)
 - Effective practice is intentional, focused, aware
 - Translating Judgments Practice - translating judgments into feelings and needs/values
 - Shifting from judgment and blaming to connection, curiosity, and compassion
 - Principle - everything we do we do to meet a need or value
 - Feelings as "radar" for needs, not something to fear or push away
 - Applying NVC at work - values and what matters>needs; focusing on individual self-connection leads to more curiosity, compassion, and connection with co-workers
 - It doesn't take two to change a conversation, only one
 - Dealing with difficult feelings by connecting to met/unmet needs - (1) notice judgments/resistance/thinking, (2) tune into body sensations, (3) identify what you want/need and embody it, (4) think of a strategy to meet the needs
 - Feelings and Needs list
 - Study by Brene Brown on average number of feelings of Americans
 - Self-connect first to connect with others second
 - Two types of practice for showing up better - formal and integrative/IRL
 - Cathan's website - Compassionate Thriving
 - Types of Judgments - Value judgments, preferences, assessments vs. moralistic judgments
 - High performance in life = showing up authentically and connecting with others
 - Mindfulness
 - Somatic experiencing and breathwork
 - Compassion vs. empathy
 




