Take a gay dating app, turn it pink and call it cute. That’s what lesbian, bisexual and queer female dating apps looked like – until Robyn Exton stepped in.

ELLE’s editor-in-chief Justine Cullen sat down with the founder and CEO of HER, the biggest social app for LGBTQ women.

Listen to Justine and Robyn talk leaps of faith, investor unconscious bias, the importance of a good selfie and why tech talk is more than just a catchcry.

The podcast is all about empowering women in technology – and dating.

First: learn code. Next: conquer world.

For more about Robyn, pick up the June 2017 issue of ELLE Australia.