Justin shares how he created Winamp and sold it to AOL at age 20 and tells us about his current project, digital audio workstation (DAW) Reaper.

Segments

[03:16 ] The genesis of Winamp

[11:07 ] Winamp whips the llama's ass

[14:06 ] Nullsoft

[16:27 ] Winamp as a platform

[23:16 ] The business side of Winamp

[24:11 ] What was it like to work at AOL?

[27:06 ] Why Justin doesn't use streaming services

[30:03 ] Justin's website

[32:06 ] Why Justin created Reaper

[35:48 ] Shipping v1 of Reaper

[37:02 ] Reaper is built by just a few people

[38:53 ] Cross-platform codebase

[40:48 ] Reaper as a platform

[43:42 ] Future of Reaper

[44:40 ] AI in Reaper

[47:09 ] Questions lightning round

[53:36 ] Book recommendations

Show notes

Where to find Justin

• Mastodon — justin@cockos.net

  
  



• Justin’s website

  
  



• Ask Justin Frankel

  
  

Books

• Masters of Doom by David Kushner

  
  



• Nona the Ninth by Tamsyn Muir

  
  



• The Three-Body Problem by Cixin Liu

  
  



• Catch-22 by Joseph Heller

  
  



• Flatland: A Romance of Many Dimensions by Edwin A. Abbott

  
  

Podcasts

• Interview with Justin on the Internet History Podcast

Software

• Winamp

  
  



• Reaper

  
  

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