Cory and Phil interview Brian Coords of Howard Development & Consulting and Editor at Master WP. We talk about connecting with the wider WordPress community as an agency, how we’ve been experimenting with Gutenberg for client sites and how it’s affected our entire process, theme scaffolding and Understrap, and why it still makes sense for us to build “hybrid” themes even though we like Gutenberg.

Brian is writing a companion article to this episode that you can find on Master WP.Please give it a read! https://masterwp.com/intheloop

If you have questions about WordPress website development, contributing, or anything else web-related that you’d like to hear us discuss, send an email to podcast@blackbird.digital. You can also find us on Twitter as @InTheLoop_WP.

Blackbird Digital is a web and app development agency that specializes in WordPress, creating on-screen experiences that connect, teach, communicate, and inspire. Visit blackbird.digital for more information.

## Links

(5:15 ) Master WP: https://masterwp.com/

(12:29 ) Allie Nimmons interview: https://anchor.fm/blackbird-digital/episodes/14-All-the-Webs-a-Stage-with-Allie-Nimmons-e1h1rgo

(15:35 ) Ryan Welcher interview: https://anchor.fm/blackbird-digital/episodes/19-All-In-on-Gutenberg-with-Ryan-Welcher-e1noamk

(24:08 ) Block Template Parts in classic themes: https://make.wordpress.org/core/2022/10/04/block-based-template-parts-in-traditional-themes/

(24:57 ) Understrap: https://understrap.com/

(27:28 ) Understrap on GitHub: https://github.com/understrap/understrap

(33:04 ) Blackbird's Theme Scaffold: https://github.com/BlackbirdDigital/wp-theme-scaffold

(53:25 ) Matt's comments about dot-org using a block theme: https://make.wordpress.org/meta/2022/08/01/developing-the-redesigned-home-and-download-pages/#comment-9362

(1:04:44 ) ACF-style native blocks with Ryan Welcher: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1604490468

(1:05:12 ) 10up Gutenberg Best Practices: https://gutenberg.10up.com/

Brian's website: https://www.briancoords.com/

Brian's Twitter: https://twitter.com/briancoords

Brain on Master WP: https://masterwp.com/author/brian-coords/

Master WP companion article: https://masterwp.com/intheloop