In this deeply moving and thought-provoking episode, Elisabeth speaks with Despo Pavlou, author of the powerful debut novel "My Kind of Normal."

Born in South Africa to Greek Cypriot parents who immigrated there in the 1960s, Despo grew up between two worlds, steeped in tradition yet surrounded by the vibrant diversity of South African life. Her cross-cultural upbringing and her lifelong journey between Cyprus and South Africa gave her a unique perspective on identity, belonging, and the courage to be yourself.

For more than 30 years, Despo ran her own businesses, but it was during a challenging period in her life that she turned to writing, a creative outlet that became both healing and liberating. My Kind of Normal tells the story of Irene, a woman born into a conservative Greek-Cypriot family, who struggles to reconcile her true identity with societal expectations. It’s a story of love, denial, courage, and ultimately, self-acceptance.

In this candid conversation, Elisabeth and Despo discuss:

✨ The immigrant experience and what it means to grow up between cultures

✨ How writing became a form of therapy and self-discovery

✨ The challenges of breaking free from traditional roles and expectations

✨ The taboo of homosexuality in conservative communities and why Cyprus still needs a major upgrade in terms of acceptance, empathy, and education

✨ How personal courage can inspire others to live their truth without shame

Despo’s story is one of resilience and authenticity, a reminder that “normal” is different for everyone, and that love, in all its forms, deserves understanding and respect.

As Despo beautifully puts it:

“We need to stop hiding behind fear and tradition. We are all human and love should never be a taboo.”

This episode is a heartfelt exploration of courage, compassion, and what it truly means to live authentically.

🎧 Tune in to this unforgettable conversation available on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and all major platforms.

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