What if success in ministry isn’t measured by numbers - but by love?

In this episode of Two Pastors and a Mic, Cory and Channock dive into Chapters 12 & 13 of Enough Already - Mind the Fields and Lead with Love, Not Metrics. Together they unpack how healed identity reshapes the way we see people and how redefining success changes the way we lead.

You’ll hear:
🌱 Why every person carries love and divinity - even if they don’t know it
👀 How to see others through the lens of Christ-in-you
🧮 The “whiteboard moment” when metrics were erased for good
❤️ Why stories of care matter more than Sunday numbers
💡 Practical ways to measure success by love, not outcomes

This episode will encourage you to rethink how you see people and how you define success - in ministry, leadership, and life.

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00:00 - Welcome Back & Listener Shout-Outs
01:21 - Worship Live Recording Announcement (Nov 18)
03:00 - Why We’re Doing This Series
04:34 - Ch. 12: “Mind the Fields” — Seeing People Differently
06:00 - The Three Fields: People, Provision & Perseverance
08:22 - Christ in Everyone (Acts 17: “God’s Offspring”)
09:20 - Reveal Jesus in People, Not to People
11:53 - Ch. 13: Lead with Love, Not Metrics
15:00 - The Whiteboard Moment: Erasing the Numbers
15:34 - Sunday Is a Part, Not the Pinnacle
16:20 - Measure Stories & Care, Not Attendance
18:00 - Redefining Success Across Ministries
19:47 - Youth Ministry Stories & Lessons
20:52 - Free eBooks & New Release Schedule
21:11 - Closing Challenge: Find Love & Divinity in Everyone
22:01 - “Call No One Unclean” (Acts 10:28 )
23:05 - Outro