Smylie Kaufman catches up with newly-minted PGA TOUR winner (and card recipient!) Michael Brennan about the whirlwind since his Bank of Utah Championship win: a week off to reset, the celebration at River Creek in Leesburg, and how a painful late collapse in Canada shaped his Sunday mindset in Utah.



Michael also breaks down the training he did to reach 135 mph of clubhead speed, the detailed tracking app he uses to strategize at golf courses he's never played before, and tells a wild near-abduction story while traveling to a PGA TOUR Americas event.



This is a must-watch for anyone chasing the dream — from junior golfers to aspiring pros.



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00:00 – Smylie welcomes PGA TOUR winner Michael Brennan

01:00 – Processing the win and fan support at home

03:00 – Learning to reset after victory

04:00 – Early recruitment and choosing Wake Forest

06:00 – Building speed and power in college

09:00 – Lessons from Rory and Scotty’s swings

10:00 – From average junior to 190 mph ball speeds

12:00 – Winning eight times in college — and the ups & downs

15:00 – Managing expectations and burnout as a young golfer

17:00 – Missing Korn Ferry status by one spot

19:00 – Crushing disappointment in Toronto and how it shaped him

22:00 – The collapse: five-shot lead turned nightmare

25:00 – What he learned — and how it fueled his next season

26:00 – Deep dive: Using “UpGame” analytics to train smarter

30:00 – How data changed his golf strategy

32:00 – Working with his caddie Jeff and modern prep for PGA TOUR

33:00 – Nightmare travel story: “I thought I was being abducted in Rio”

41:00 – How playing at elevation prepared him for Utah

43:00 – Meeting his caddie and building trust on the road

45:00 – Getting a last-minute sponsor’s exemption to Utah

47:00 – Closing it out under pressure — redemption for Toronto

50:00 – Lessons from Smylie’s own first win

51:00 – Michael’s next steps — moving to Jacksonville, prepping for 2025

52:30 – Smylie’s final thoughts & Brennan’s message to fans