Ell and Simon come back mainly to talk about some of the chaos of modern life. Tennessee bill set to target marriage equality between races, drag shows being targeted to be shut down, the societal pendulum swinging back with more force than before, how to get an opposing side to understand you, the new movie "The Whale" and how its creative integrity is being overlooked by left winging political advocates for its use of a controversial foundational subject matter, and more. The world just keeps getting stranger, and we hope that you can get something tangible and useful from this episode. Stay empathetic.