What does it take to create lasting change in an organization that is rooted in dignity, justice, and care? Too often, leadership and consulting focus on quick fixes instead of investing in deeper and necessary cultural shifts. Today, we explore how organizations can foster true transformation by embracing a more holistic approach and prioritizing what truly matters.

Our guest, Ora Grodsky, is a mission-driven consultant and author of the new book Justice, Love, and Organizational Healing. With over 25 years of experience, she helps social justice organizations repair harm, strengthen leadership, and align with their values. Drawing from a unique background in acupuncture, nonprofit management, and organizational development, Ora brings a holistic, human-centered approach to change.

In today's eye-opening conversation, Ora breaks down her approach to transformational consulting. She sees organizations as living systems where true change requires healing, connection, and cultural awareness. Quoting the Talmud, she reminds us: "You are not obligated to complete the work, but neither are you free to abandon it." This belief guides her work, helping organizations move beyond surface-level fixes to deep, justice-driven transformation.

She also explains how dominant cultural forces, including white supremacy, shape workplace dynamics and decision-making, before unpacking how organizations can begin to address and heal from these damaging patterns. By aligning values with action, she helps leaders create workplaces that don't just function but truly embody justice and care.

Tune in for her powerful insights on how to build lasting, meaningful change together!

 

Key Points From This Episode:

• Ora's unique background ranging from acupuncture to nonprofit management. [02:40 ]
• Insights from a profound quote in the Talmud included Ora's book. [06:38 ]
• Ways that Ora's background in acupuncture has shaped how she consults. [11:51 ]
• The three different types of consulting and the details of transformational consulting. [15:01 ]
• How Ora chooses which organizations to partner with: shared values and goals. [18:43 ]
• Types of organizations that Ora typically works with and the issues she addresses. [22:00 ]
• Where to start in the process of undertaking organizational change. [23:53 ]
• The hardest, most intractable problems Ora has come up against. [27:53 ]
• Recognizing how the culture of white supremacy has shaped organizational cultures. [31:12 ]
• Ora's holistic understanding of systems, how it differentiates her as a consultant, and the top thing she wants listeners to take from her book. [35:50 ]

For More Information:

Ora Grodsky
Ora Grodsky on LinkedIn

Justice, Love, and Organizational Healing

 

Links Mentioned in Today's Episode:

Kathy's interview with Shawn Achor - How Your Happiness Level Directly Impacts Your Success

Tema Okun's seminal work on White Supremacy Culture
Stephen Covey's Seven Habits of Highly Effective People

Fatimah Gilliam's book Race Rules: What Your Black Friend Won't Tell You

And Kathy's Finding Brave interview with Fatimah Gilliam  - Race Rules: What Your Black Friend Won't Tell You

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