Is deeper political engagement faithfulness—or a fast track to compromise? In this candid conversation, Alisa and Jesse Westwood (Faith Reframed) wrestle with Christian political involvement in the wake of recent events, the rise of Christian nationalism, and the stealthy influence of the New Apostolic Reformation (NAR).

From Jesse’s Anabaptist “two-kingdom” convictions to Alisa’s case for principled engagement, you’ll hear vigorous disagreement—and real agreement—on essentials: the sufficiency of Scripture, the danger of dominionism (NAR’s “Seven Mountain Mandate”), and why bad theology hurts people. They also distinguish classic postmillennialism from dominionist projects, talk early-church witness, co-belligerence, and why placing political victory over biblical doctrine is a dead end.

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