Coining a new term, Jen introduces Pete to the idea of, while working on a project, considering the relative effort of both the creator and the receiver.

Specifically, in this episode Jen and Pete talk about:

• What is relative effort? What is relative risk?
• How might we ship things without the pressure of absolute perfection?
• Why might we think about the worst case scenario or fear, in order to move a project along?

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