Is your church running like a flawless machine but missing the presence of the Holy Spirit? In this episode of Conversation, we unpack what it means to drift into becoming a “Robot Church”—where systems, structure, and efficiency take the driver’s seat instead of spiritual responsiveness and authentic leadership.

We’ll walk through the key symptoms of a machine-like church: leadership misalignment, mechanics over ministry, protecting systems instead of following the Spirit, and the absence of true pastoral presence. More importantly, we’ll offer practical steps for leaders who want to unplug the machine and build a church that’s not just excellent, but Spirit-filled and alive with God’s presence.

Whether you’re a pastor, church leader, or someone who cares about the health of the local church, this conversation will give you both insight and tools to lead with authenticity, presence, and power.



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