In this episode Paul interviews Roger about some of the insights he has had regarding:

• The limited thinking it's easy for us all to live from.


• The real nature of humankind.


• The downside of meritocracy.


• What makes for a world-class team culture.


• What's often missing in the way we think about developing leaders.


• The simple way our inner world shapes our response to the outer world.


• Why awareness of our inner worlds is critical in the new context we're all now in.

The purpose of the conversation was to delve deeper into the reasons behind Roger initiating The World-Class Leader Course, the first of which launches in February 2021. It took us to places neither of us expected!

Enjoy.