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In this interview from Black Hat 2025, David Bombal sits down with two cybersecurity legends: David Cowen (Digital Forensics Expert) and Evan Anderson (Red Team Operator and Tool Builder). They give an unfiltered look at the real world of hacking, forensics, and career-building in cybersecurity.

What we'll cover:
• How the SolarWinds hack was discovered with never-before-heard forensics insight
• Real-world red teaming using HVAC exploits, USB pivots, and AWS chaos
• The Oculus vs. Carmack lawsuit story from the expert who worked the case
• How to start your career in cybersecurity, even without a degree
• What the CCDC program is and why it leads to 3 job offers instantly
• How AI is changing the game for hackers and defenders alike

// David Cowen’s SOCIALS //
SANS Profile: https://www.sans.org/profiles/david-c...
LinkedIn: / dcowen
X: / dcowen

// Evan Anderson SOCIALS //
Offensive Context: https://blog.offensivecontext.com/aut...
LinkedIn: / syndrowm
GitHub: https://github.com/syndrowm

// Website REFERENCE //
https://www.nationalccdc.org/
https://www.sans.org/emea
https://ctftime.org/
https://www.uscyberpatriot.org/

// YouTube Channel REFERENCE //
13Cubed: / @13cubed

// David Cowen’s Books REFERENCE //
Computer Forensics:
US: https://amzn.to/47yeH70
UK: https://amzn.to/460ErGs

Hacking Exposed Computer Forensics: Secrets and Solutions
US: https://amzn.to/4mYevCW
UK: https://amzn.to/46q07NH

Hacking Exposed Computer Forensics: Secrets and Solutions:
US: https://amzn.to/4mT3T8k
UK: https://amzn.to/4m8zaCS

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// Menu //
0:00 - Coming up
0:49 - Intro
01:13 - Sponsored Section
01:29 - (AWS) Amazon Web Services
03:04 - David Cowen’s Background
03:46 - Evan Anderson’s Background
05:18 - Advice for young people To Get A Job In this Space
05:56 - The Solar Winds Hack?
10:43 - Finding a needle in a Haystack
11:08 - The Oculus Story
13:00 - Evan in Red Teaming
15:55 - Advice To Younger self
16:51 - Recommended Courses
19:42 - Importance of Networking
20:19 - Recommended Certifications
24:13 - Is AI Taking All The Jobs ?
24:57 - Connect With David & Evan online
25:12 - Conclusion & Outro

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